This generation's Roe v. Wade, Brown vs. Board---Supreme Court moves on Obamacare.

I agree this is likely going to be a landmark case.

 

I am going to predict that the Supreme Court will uphold the government's constitutionally given power to levy taxes. Nothing landmark here.

 

Except yesterday's arguments determined that this isn't a tax.

 

You mean they ruled it wasn't a tax? Or didn't rule it as a tax?

 

This isn't quite right. Yesterday's oral arguments were focused on a different law - one that basically requires something to be called a tax for it to be relevant to that law. The government's larger authority to tax does not necessarily require something to be called a tax - just to function as a tax.

 

i think technically they can't argue its a tax till someone has paid the penalty

 

who would frame it that way? they're the same argument. the more accurate "framing" would be individual liberty vs. an unrestrained federal government.

that's the fundamental question.

 

If the opinion is "limited to the present circumstances," there will be no need to read the rest of it.

 

Interesting. In all my History, PoliSci, and Philosophy classes, I never came across anyone who defined individual liberty as the freedom to die in a cheap apartment because you couldn't get health insurance from profit-driven companies and so had to sell everything to pay for the little health care you could.

Of course, back then, Rand was considered a bad fiction writer.

 

B*ll*****.

The fundimental question is whether health care is a right everyone is entitled to, or a privilege that only those who can afford it are entitled to.

 

is health insurance the same thing as health care?

 

When the 10 O'Clock news has someone being thrown out of their house and complaining about the health care penalty this is gonna reverse field.

 

Yes in part. It certainly is when people have an ongoing chronic illness like diabetes that requires constant upkeep, monitoring and input by medical doctors.

Without insurance it isn't possible to get the same level of care.

 

Guess you had a bunch of Marxist profs.

 

I'm hearing that Kennedy is breaking right

 

And socialists, don't forget socialists!

 

I'm hearing he's breaking, right?

He's poppin' and lockin' as well as doing the centipede and spinning on his head. He's amazing.

 

i dress left.

 

Yesterday's oral arguments were about whether a suit could be brought for a tax that hasn't been collected. The government nor the opponents are arguing that this is a tax and the Court appointed a counsel to make that position to show whether the court could hear the case. For the purposes of this case the court ruled that this wasn't a tax. True that is a limited argument pertaining just to the case and not a larger question. So I should've been more specific.