Here's a thought: If a couple of these max salary free agents end up going to a cap space cleared skeleton team, the search to put the right role players around these main pieces will be immense. Who has the best collection of role players? That's right, the Rockets do. Come trade deadline time, I can see players like Battier and Ariza being at an all time high in terms of stock. What do you guys think we can fetch for our "role" players by February next year? Then there is the other side of the coin. Why go to a team and sign outright when 1)That player would give up guaranteed years and money & 2)That team would still have to go and collect the right pieces to complement the stars. That would be my main pitch to these free agents. I think the thing that makes our team unique is that we have the right assets to s&t for TWO max agents and still have enough complementary players to build the perfect team. I would love to hear what you guys think.
If those teams have skeleton rosters outside of their stars what could they offer of value to us for our role players? Draft picks won't be very valuable if they are in the 20s.
We really should trade Ariza and Battier cuz the rest of the team either contributes constantly or is a rising prospect. Long hail Black Joe Johnson!!!!!!!!
That's kind of the point that I was trying to make. If these teams spend 80% of the cap on 2 and 1/2 players, then are they going to fill the rest of their 15man roster with D-leaguers???? They don't even have draft picks to fill out their team. Basketball is a game where no 2-3 players can win a championship by themselves. "It takes 5" (+3 solid bench players).
I think Shane is eventually traded. That 7.3 million expiring contract is too sweet an asset for Morey not to exploit at the trade deadline, or maybe even tonight. .
Point well made, and that's why lebron is going to Chicago, and Joe Johnson is going with him. Bulls will trade Deng for #3 pick from NJ and get one of the PF from the draft. Bosh is going to Miami with Wade, Amare will be picking up money from Knicks, and Boozer can go NJ.
If Lebron, Wade, or Bosh decide to team up together with each other or some of the lower tier prize free agents, then why can't we convince them that Houston would be the absolute best place to do so in terms of strictly winning?
Their whole point of gutting their team for cap space is to sign 2 big name free agents. Thus having nothing else to trade, accept maybe future draft picks and they have no cap room to absorb any of our players. What do you not understand? You see it's a funny thing about cap space once you fill it is gone. These team our already looking to buy second round draft picks and will looking to sign vets to the max minimum. Yeah that's their plan. 3 hall of famers and a bunch of scrubs is what it takes to win a championship these days. If Chicago gets Bosh and Lebron to go with Noah and Rose and Deng they can pretty much add anyone else and win. Don't you think? So your thinking beyond the draft is wrong. Think about us stealing those free Agents from those stripped down teams. We have more to offer in a sign and trade and we already have the peices to win. We only need one of those guys. Just one Bosh or lebron or maybe even Boozer and we will win. Think again my friend
No, that's absolutely what I'm trying to say. Our team is ready NOW. The soft cap system doesn't allow you to sign players beyond a certain level, but will allow you to go beyond it if you already have players with contracts. In my opinion, WE ARE THE BEST team to s&t for two max free agents.
i see morey taking advantage of all the sales going on...getting some assets for a low value and then using that to "overpay" for someone that's not even being shopped around or not a FA. Someone out of the blue. Take Granger for example. He's being shopped now, but wasnt even mentioned before, pretty much off the table...but if morey comes offering just a bit more than he's worth talent-wise, indy may bite. Granger is just an example though..could be just a really really solid role player type, maybe a big.
That's a question to ask one of them but certainly that would be the best option for the Rockets. Of course Daryl Morey has said that and Bosh has shown no interest nor lebron, Wade is not going anywhere and Amare does not seem to like Yao. That leaves Boozer and report are he visited Houston recently. If Boozer signs with Houston that would mean Scola is Gone or Les doesn't care how much Morey Spends. Okay Senorita Valorita
we get you, but you messed up by talking about how much our role players' stocks would rise, implying that we'd be able to trade our role guys to those teams at a higher price....so it sounds like youre saying we can rape those teams with our role guys in Feb, but i'm guessing that was a mistake on your part.
I think we need one more pretty close to All Star type player to win a championship. I think Morey believes that too. I also think that player needs to be a big unless its Lebron or Wade. Maybe Joe Johnson... but how much better is he then or current wings.
I think you are right our role players stock could rise if we start to win at a decent pace. Budinger could really step up and so could Hill in their second years making their stock soar. I can see that happening. Especially with Hill if he gets significantly more playing time.
unless they have someone of equal salary they're givign up on and need someone like battier, but dont want to commit long term.
I guess I wasn't very clear with my train of thought. At first, I thought about how how high the demand for championship caliber role players would be this season. This line of logic led me to think what kind of deal we can get for these players. The problem was that none of these teams had anything left to offer us. That is why I thought it would be something worth discussing.
You are overrating Rox role players way to high. If they are worth two Max players, Rockets wouldn't end in a position seven games out of playoff race. They played hard, played like a team, played under a good coach. But talent wise, they are not above average as a collection in NBA.
