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The wrong path?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, Jul 30, 2009.

  1. Francis3422

    Francis3422 Member

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    In Morey we trust?

    Sorry, I don't. Not anymore. Im tired of the op-eds. By our worthless sports writers. The mystique of this guys genius is too pungent in their writings. I like his little moves. His ability to scout role players and get value. But I don't think its going to go well from here on out.

    Our plan is to build around Yao Ming, to build for 2010-11. We don't want to shed tremendous payroll for a star, because we love our assets. We love your assets to much to compile them for something more. We don't want to take on payroll this year, because we don't have Yao and Tracy. Our goal is to be one of the few teams in the history of the league to qualify for the 8th spot and a butt raping, but do it without star power.

    We are waiting for our injury prone star (using superstar is hard to justify) to come back. This also implies we believe he can be the best player on a championship caliber team. (even with the alterations to his game that are coming, and his injury vulnerabilities)

    Why compile values in moderation if your not going to combine them for an upgrade at some point?

    If we indeed are waiting for Yao to come back, and doing so because we feel we can build a championship caliber team around him, we are misguided and I simply disagree.

    Morey and the management have a very high rep here and I know why. He has done some positive things here. I will wait, with my torch lit for now, downtown for the rest of you. When you are ready to slash and burn and to cry for a change of paths, we will get some more torches.
     
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  2. Baseballa

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    What would you like us to do, oh wise one?
     
  3. dragonz

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    you are not suppose to question the God, you know.
    Don't let lightning hit you on your way out.
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  4. aussie rocket

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    Its hard to judge Morey negatively when he has hardly made a false move yet....you yourself admit this and state you like his 'little moves'.

    He could well be compiling players to get a star, infact i'm pretty sure that's what he's waiting to do.

    Sorry mate, I think you have gone the early crow on this one.

    If we are waiting around 18 months from now without a big SPLASH then call him out then.
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Lock and ban for Blasphemy.

    3 words in two years.

    1)Scola
    2)Brooks
    3)Landry
     
  6. zilches

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    Sounds like Francis3422 is fed up, bent out of shape, and just not going to take it any more.

    It must be time to "slash-n-burn" the city and blow-torch the Rocket management.

    I guess we are at an all-time low.
     
  7. leebigez

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    I think he has done a decent job, but most on this board act like he has reinvented the wheel. I will wait and see and stand down, but until he can pull the big fish with a small lure, its a wait and see approach. I don't agree with the wait for yao approach, but maybe it was lip service. The worse thing to be is mediocre and that seems like the path the rockets are heading.
     
  8. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    Fact: Morey did not draft Yao Ming
    Fact: Morey did not trade for Tmac

    We can't really say Morey is a win or loss until the era of YaoMac ends. Until then, Morey is playing poker with someone else's draw of the cards.
     
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  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Morey is following the path that his boss Les tells him to follow.

    DD
     
  10. leebigez

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    So true
     
  11. Raven

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    Exactly, and we have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. This is why it's important to watch what the front office does and not necessarily what they say, and so far they are acting like a franchise that 1. isn't panicking and 2. is thinking long term.
     
  12. Hayesfan

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    For some reason I find it difficult to read a post about not trusting Morey from someone with Francis in their screen name... it may be just me.
     
  13. Rocket86

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    Pathetically true. :D
     
  14. fzr11017

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    I don't see what's wrong with the waiting game.

    We are pretty solid and young at the PG position. Brooks is a great scoring guard, and Lowry is good defensively. If he can add a jumpshot, like Scola and Landry have developed, he might overtake Brooks.

    SG is questionable. We had a superstar, as you said. Now it's a big question mark. This is the hole that will be left after McGrady's gone next year. We'll see if the rookies can make a big jump.

    SF is solid. We have Shane Battier, who I think we'll keep at least one year, before trading, if we even do. Battier can groom and teach Ariza how to excel defensively. Then, we will have a young SF who can fill the starter spot well.

    PF looks good. The Scolandry combo works well, although it will be difficult to keep Scola and attain a major free agent. Bosh is great, but the trick is getting him here. Landry is young, and the explosive spark of the bench.

    C is also a gaping hole now. Yet, if Ilgauskas came back, there is a possibility that Yao can come back healthy. Time will tell. But I'm willing to take a chance to have a superstar back. We'll see how Andersen pans out. Could be a decent backup to have.



    Overall, I say worst case scenario, after this season we are a starting SG, backup SG, starting C, and backup C away from a very good team. Give it a shot.

    If we do even mediocre, we'll have an average pick. That's all Morey needs to pull good talent. He has the ability to find a gem. He's set us up in great position for retooling OR rebuilding.
     
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    The only player on the Rockets roster who can be traded to bring in a player that would immediately and significantly upgrade the team is McGrady.

    Until another team coughs up, for example, a Kevin Martin. The only thing Morey can do is wait.
     
  16. Carl Herrera

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    moneyballs suck cuz he ain't gonna make the right move:

    trade batter for 1st round pick
    trade tmac for baron and kaman
    sign tim thomas with medical exception
    trade brain cook, scola, berry for sjax
    sign wafer with the mle

    man that would be a solid team i rule.
     
  17. Kojirou

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    So what's your brilliant move? Blow all our good young talent for some aging All-Star like Nash (like so many were suggesting earlier in the offseason) who won't do much and will massively hurt the payroll? Unfortunately, we're not the Dallas Mavericks and can't just throw money like water.
    And who says we're building around Yao? We're just grabbing good young talent, which is never a bad thing.
     
  18. aussie rocket

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    Thanks for your serviceable role playing days in the mid 90's Carl.

    You rule.
    ;)
     
  19. v3.0

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    The main thing Les wants Morey to do is not go over the luxury tax. Oh sure keep Yao because he's a cash cow etc etc. Other then that Les lets Morey have pretty much free rein on how to shape the roster. And Morey so far has not disappointed for the most part.

    Sure we b**** and moan that we could have this player and that name, but for the most part I haven't had serious doubts about Morey's moves. The mistakes he's made he quickly corrects them.
     
  20. Naija Texan

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    Frankly, had the things that happened to the Rockets happen to other teams, they would have missed the playoffs last year.

    All of the moves Morey has made have allowed us to get as far as we have. Given how insane the injuries to McGrady and Yao are and the fact we won't have them available last year, he has made some pretty good moves, while working with limited cap space and no draft picks.

    Right now, this is looking like a bad season on paper. But this season will hopefully help develop the young talent we have and make them better players. As for the complaining about building around Yao, obviously with the latest injury and the fact that he might not come back at 100%, that probably isn't in the cards, but we have a nice enough core of talent that we could possibly still make a decent run at the playoffs or if worst comes to worst make some trades.


    The problem however is that the market isn't great since every team is trying throw out their players to have cap room due to the bad economy and the mythical 2010 offseason of super FAs. But honestly, being a GM isn't about making big flashy moves but the right ones at the right times. Outside of the maybe the GMs for the Lakers, Trail Blazers and Spurs, not many have been able to build such a good stable of talent without breaking their banks IMO.
     

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