Haters, here they come! I don't have any sources, butttt: Vince Young scored a 6 on his Wonderlics. That's one of the lowest scores ever. John McClain (who is at the combine) comfirmed it, and apparently there will be an article in the Chronicle tomorrow on it. I believe Harrisment emailed him and asked (and it's probably already posted on here somewhere....sorry). I believe it deserves it's own thread though. Now, this is definitely gonna hurt his stock, but I think it might help our situation out a little. Now, some of the Vince lovers will shy away (I personally will not), so some of that pressure is off. He might fall a few picks, also which means that we could possibly still trade down a FEW spots and still get him, plus extra picks. I'm all for that, if it seems certain. Does this change your opinion on the draft? Do you think this means Vince will be less of an NFL quarterback? I definitely don't. I just wanna hear some opinions. If it's already posted (which I think it might be, due to Harrisment's name on HPF.com), or this thread doesn't seem worthy because of no sources, or whatever, please delete it. Sorry.
I'm a r****d. I need to learn to read threads. Lock her up. I thought I was breaking some scoop or something.
I was expecting this thread to be music related, about an up and comming local band, named, "Vince Young and the Wonderlics"........................................... there, now, you can lock it up.
False score gives Young wrong kind of buzz UT QB's disputed Wonderlic grade talk of the combine By JOHN MCCLAIN Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle RESOURCES WHAT'S A WONDERLIC? The Wonderlic, or Wonderlic Personnel Test, has been administered to prospective NFL players since the 1970s as a means of assessing intelligence, aptitude for learning a job and general problem-solving ability. How it works Players are given 12 minutes to answer 50 questions. The score is calculated as the number of correct answers given. A score of 20 indicates average intelligence and corresponds to an IQ of 100. Sample questions • 1. The ninth month of the year is: 1. October; 2. January; 3. June; 4. September. • 2. Paper sells for 21 cents per pad. What will 4 pads cost? • 3. Assume the first 2 statements are true. Is the final one true, false or not certain? The boy plays baseball. All baseball players wear hats. The boy wears a hat. (Answers: 1. 4. September; 2. 84 cents; 3. True.) INDIANAPOLIS - Like his performance in the Rose Bowl, quarterback Vince Young rallied from a huge deficit to pull out a personal victory that might have earned him millions of dollars. On Saturday, a rumor that Young had scored a 6 on the Wonderlic test sent shock waves through the combine. No coach, scout or general manager surveyed could produce an example of a starting quarterback with a single-digit Wonderlic score. The test — 50 multiple-choice, non-football questions in 12 minutes — is a barometer that teams use to gauge a prospect's ability to learn. On Sunday, the combine said the test score of 6 that was being reported by some media outlets was false. "I've been told it was inaccurate by a source good enough for me to quote it," Texans general manager Charley Casserly said Sunday afternoon. Young took the test again and scored 16. According to Young's agent, Major Adams, the Sunday test was administered by Jeff Foster, executive director of National Scouting Combine. "The combine officials assured us that score (6) was false and that the accurate score will be known when the combine results are given to each team," Adams said. Wonderlic scores are supposed to be confidential and are never confirmed publicly by the NFL. Because they are included in combine results given to teams after the combine, scores leak out. "The number really doesn't mean anything to us because we go through a process of four or five other ways to evaluate it," Casserly said. "The number's insignificant to us in the end. It's the other areas that we put more weight on." Prospects can take the Wonderlic tests as many times as they want. "I heard about the 6," Tennessee general manager Floyd Reese said Sunday morning. "I heard the test was improperly given, and I heard they're going to try and correct it. "It could be improperly given because of time. It could be improperly given because when you correct it, there are like six or seven different tests. If you correct Test A with a correct sheet for Test C, it's not going to come out very well." Rose-tinted glasses Many executives believe the Wonderlic test is culturally biased, which is the reason they administer other tests they believe more accurately test a player's intelligence. "I've seen players test in single digits and play 10 years, and I've seen some guys test in the 30s that couldn't walk across the street," said Reese, who has been in the NFL since 1975. Before the combine, many prospects get help to prepare for the test. They take the tests almost every day to get ready for the combine. Young is expected to take the test again before the Longhorns' pro day March 22. Scores for quarterbacks in the past five drafts vary, according to nfldraftscout.com. For instance, Michael Vick scored a 20, David Carr had a 24 and Eli Manning came in with a 39. "The Wonderlic is just a red flag," Titans coach Jeff Fisher said. "Before the draft, everybody will sit down with Vince and find out if he can process information. The test has been the standard for decades, but it's only one part of the evaluation process. It's just a first step. There'll be a lot of other tests he'll undergo." Sean Jones, a member of Oakland's personnel department, put little stock in Young's Wonderlic score. "All I need to know about Vince Young is that he came up with one of the greatest performances ever in the Rose Bowl," Jones said. "In the fourth quarter, I saw (USC coach) Pete Carroll throw every kind of blitz at Vince. I saw Vince read the blitz and beat the blitz. "I don't care what his Wonderlic score is. The only score I care about is 41-38." Defensive tackle Rodrique Wright, Young's teammate at UT, came to the QB's defense. "I think Vince's decision-making will be missed even more than his athleticism," Wright said about the Longhorns. "We knew all along that Vince was a great athlete who could run and throw, but the biggest improvement he made from his freshman year through his junior year was in the decision-making process. "You don't lead a team to a national championship if you can't make good decisions." Interview goes well While Young's Wonderlic tests created a huge controversy, he was busy interviewing with different teams, including the Texans. "I thought the interview went well," Young said. "I thought coach (Gary) Kubiak was cool. "They asked me a lot of questions about offense. At the end, they asked me why I thought I'd be good for the team. I basically told them that I'm a high-character guy that wants to win. I said it's important to be a leader. "I told them I wanted a chance to lead them to a Super Bowl win." Kubiak was impressed with Young, too. "We had a great interview with him," Kubiak said. "I wanted him to tell me why football's important to him. I wanted to talk to him about his leadership qualities. We talked a lot about offense. "I was very, very impressed with the kid. But I was impressed with Reggie Bush, too." john.mcclain@chron.com
