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The Violent Oppression of Women in Islam

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Oct 7, 2007.

  1. ROXRAN

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    When is a twisted and sick religion exactly what it is....?

    Where is Jimmy Carter in the name of "human rights" he claims is his post-Presidency legacy?

    Where the left at?...huh?

    Can you dig it!?

    The Violent Oppression of Women in Islam
    By Robert Spencer and Phyllis Chesler
    FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, October 05, 2007

    The booklet that you are about to read details some of the principal ways in which women suffer in the Islamic world – often with religious and cultural sanction. Many of these crimes against women, such as wife-beating, are ordained by the Qur’an itself; others, such as female genital mutilation and honor killing, are praised by Islamic clerics and hallowed by Islamic culture. That feminists in the West remain silent about this deeply ingrained and institutionalized mistreatment of women, and even ally with groups that have devoted themselves to the spread of Islamic law that justifies this mistreatment, is one of the unconscionable scandals of our time.



    This article is a segment of a series being run as part of our nation-wide campus effort, Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, which will be held on 200 university and college campuses on October 22-26. Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week is a national effort to focus on all the victims of Islamo-Fascist Jihad -- as well as to counter the lies of the academic Left, which seeks to deny the evil, and even the very existence, of our enemy in this terror war. In this way, Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week hopes to educate American students and to enable them to rally to defend their country.

    In terms of the booklet of our subject today, its cover is a still photograph that epitomizes Islamic oppression of women, and it has come to also epitomize the Western feminist non-response to it. The picture comes from a Dutch film called De Steen (The Stone), directed by Mahnaz Tamizi, and features the actress Smadar Monsinos. The Stone dramatizes the barbaric treatment of women in Islamic countries. It accurately depicts the reality of Islamic Sharia law regarding adultery: when a couple is caught in adultery, the man is jailed while the woman is stoned to death.

    It is a telling indication of the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of the Left that it has fastened upon our use of this picture to try to discredit Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week, since the photo does not depict an actual event – as if women weren’t being stoned to death under Sharia law in Iran and some other Muslim countries today. In reality, eight women are currently in prison in Iran awaiting death by stoning for the crime of adultery. A mother was sentenced to be stoned to death in Iran for adultery just last week. It is typical of the Left to try to cast opprobrium not upon those responsible for these harsh realities, but upon us who are trying to draw attention to them in the name of human rights.


    It may have seemed inconceivable that feminists and their allies would defend those who bury women in the earth and kill them by throwing large stones at them, but that is the ultimate thrust of the Left’s outcry against our use of this picture and against Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week in general. Such are the ironies of our troubled age.


    In this booklet are realities that should be of paramount concern not just for feminists in the West and their allies on the Left, but of all those who are concerned with the universality of human rights and the dignity of every human being.


    (the site also has the link to read the booklet)

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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    The article seems to be taking the practices of a very small minority of Muslims and claiming it to be supported by Muslim culture at large.

    It is a propaganda piece.
     
  3. thumbs

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    If Bush didn't do it, ignore it. Taking an honest look isn't politically correct.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    I don't mind taking an honest look at it, and on this bbs I've talked about the oppression and voiced my opposition to it numerous times.

    But giving credit to published propaganda articles doesn't help the situation either. It should be looked at honestly. I agree. This article doesn't take an honest look at it.
     
  5. basso

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    Seriously, who the **** cares? Muslims can rape and shoot women, stone homosexuals, but nobody in the hallowed canyons of manhattan or the hills of berkeley will give a ****. however, if a republican president were to invade iran over its nuclear program and liberate all those women and homosexuals, the batmen of the world would just scream "no blood for oil!" or some other such nonsenses.

    seriously, no one on the left gives a good ******* about women or gays that are not in this country, and then, only if they're democrats. if a gay republican should present a tragic aspect, is he met w/ sympathy and discretion by those on the "left?"

    no, the twittering twits of twitterism are all a flutter about it, O! look! a gay republican!!!

    let's just shut the **** up about this, please- no one cares.
     
  6. abcdef

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    So you don't give a **** about the people in your own country.... but magically pretend to care about people in other countries, while actually ****ing their country up and taking their money and livelihoods away.

    I'll take the supposedly snotty left, thanks.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    lol. Nobody on the left is happy with Iran, and all are in favor of a change on Iran.

    You haven't been listening, or just don't care about the truth. The left hasn't condemned any Republican homosexual for being homosexual, but rather for their hypocrisy.

    Yes we should hold our nation to a higher standard than what we hold other nations to. Yes we should focus on fixing our own problems first and foremost.

    A nuclear program that hasn't been proved to be about weapons at all.
     
  8. NewYorker

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    No, basso is not a liberal.
     
  9. abcdef

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    Duh. He's on the right. That means that he doesn't give a **** about the people in his own country, and he wants global domination in the name of "liberation." This is far worse than what he's accusing of the left.
     
  10. NewYorker

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    Oh, well, ya know, when you saying he doesn't care about other people in other countries but pretends to...I thought you were calling him a liberal.

    Ya know, liberals are famous for that.
     
  11. ROXRAN

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    I'm not so sure about that when there is demonstrated silence coming from the left side on this...Let's talk about it, not respond to it...The problem seems to be a trigger response, and no initiated debate on the matter by the left from my perspective...
     
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    Faux issue, only to brought up when it serves interests.

    If this was the real concern of the right, the army would be in Darfur, not Iraq. Why haven't you been on these boards arguing pasionately for intervention in Sudan, you right wing global protectors of women?

    When you want to attack a country, suddently your hearts are overflowing with kindness and concern for the wellbeing of the people. Fake. Fake. Fake.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Sanctions and diplomacy geared at change has definitely been talked about by the left.
     
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  15. basso

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    you need to go back and re-read my comments on Darfur. i've been arguing precisely for american military intervention.

    hint: there is no oil in darfur
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    It is true that you have. I concur. But conservatives at large have not.
     
  17. basso

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    talk, talk, chatter, chatter, twit, twit.

    Action?
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    The democrats aren't in position to take action on their talk. That isn't the job of congress. The constitution specifies it.

    They are against the action of military intervention for good reason.

    Or do you believe that any action except military action isn't really action?
     
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    Their concern stems from being scared ****less of Muslims, and their arrogant rationalization that Muslim countries be better off if we dominated...er liberated them with an iron and bloody fist.

    Sudan? They're not a threat! We shouldn't nation-build in those countries....
     
  20. NewYorker

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    I think this is less about Islam and more about a region that's simply in the dark ages.

    There's nothing that can be done about this really except to quietly put pressure on leaders to effect change.
     

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