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The underwear bomber work of the US government?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Aggie2012, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. Aggie2012

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    <iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4F4n30SePc4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


    This is going to be interesting.
     
  2. RedRedemption

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    I stopped after I saw the words Fox News.
     
  3. Cannonball

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    Well, it's a local Fox affiliate, not Fox News.
     
  4. Royals Ego

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    his attorney looks like a pimp
     
  5. RedRedemption

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    Eh. I don't trust Fox or anything related to it. Completely bias news. Although, it's near impossible to find un-biased news now-a-days... eh.
     
  6. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    What is with all of the pro se terrorism defendants?
     
  7. Mr. Brightside

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    Wow. I guess things like this shouldn't surprise me after all these years on the fake war on terror.
     
  8. BrownBeast99

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    And of course you don't see this on the national mainstream media, but just a small segment on a local station...
     
  9. CrazyDave

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    I guess I'm missing the part where the two "lawyers" explain how the "official man" who escorted this man past security was able to talk this dude into strapping tnt to his junk... allegedly.
     
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  11. ToyCen428

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    this is old news, sorry fellas. Back after this first happened, tons of witnesses from the departing airport says a nicely dressed asian/indian accompanied the underwear bomber to the gate... telling the employees of the airline that the underwear bomber did NOT have a passport but must be put on the plane anyway.

    After several people come out with this same story, why was no investigation done? Security cameras at the airport should have this incident on video.

    Oh wait, I know why. Our government is all about truths. I forgot. :rolleyes:
     
  12. ToyCen428

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    Why would the mainstream media, who is controlled by our government, let out information blaming the government for being behind a potential deadly terrorist attack on our own U.S. citizens? Makes sense to me.
     
  13. Achilleus

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    Why didn't they just get him a passport?
     
  14. trustme

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    Not surprised. FBI has done this before and very recently (New York, Portland, and I believe San Diego). Plus, why wouldn't he want to be represented by an attorney?
     
  15. jo mama

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    indeed...
    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1207412,00.html

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/09/attack/main521223.shtml

    as for this underwear bomber - his father had reported to the u.s. embassy in nigeria that his son had become radicalized. despite this he was able to buy a 1 way ticket in cash w/out even having a passport - if anyone is to get extra screening it should be someone like that...not some 80 year old grandma - there were already about a dozen body scanners in place at the airport in amsterdam and he didnt have to go through one or any kind of screening, apparently. and the fact that multiple witnesses saw this other man in a suit escorting him onto the plane and other witnesses who say another man was actually videotaping the whole incident on the plane.

    if they had properly utilized the tools already in place this 'underwear bomber' would have never made it to the gate - but instead of making sure they follow procedure in the future, the government decides the solution is to naked body scan and grope everyone.

    the lawyer in the video makes a good point when he says this was used to bring in body scanners. the body scanner contracts had been purchased a year before the underwear bomber, but that was the incident they used to justify putting them in.

    id also point out that former fatherland security chief chertoff, who advocated for and purchased the body scanners when he was in government, went and got a job with one of the companies who makes the body scanners as soon as he left his post.
     
  16. ToyCen428

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    Because he was on a "Watch list" of terrorist. I don't think they're qualified to get passports. Would make sense.
     
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    But the government's the one making the watch list, so why would he be on it?
     
  18. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    What does our government have to do with investigations at an airport in the Netherlands?
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    To be a devil's advocate here, they could want to use a bona fide terror suspect to do the job so that their fall guy could look authentic. They would not have told this guy they worked for the government and just that they had someone who could get him through security.

    I started off skeptical, but I think there is some plausibility here. I won't be surprised if it does turn out to be BS though. It'll be interesting to see what defense the guy takes in court.
     
  20. rocketsjudoka

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    I had this before and about the "smartly dressed Indian man." Consider that the bomber had already flown from Ghana into Amsterdam already and had traveled quite a bit in the past year. Obviously Abdulmuttallab had a passport otherwise he wouldn't have been able to make all of those flights. If didn't have one to avoid the terrorism watch list then why didn't he give a fake name to get onto the plane?

    As far as this "smartly dressed Indian man" I would be very hesitant to jump to conclusions. At incidents like this there are frequently claims of mysterious co-conspirators, remember that in the Giffords' shooting for at least a day people were looking for another man who many claimed might have been involved. All of this strikes me as extremely speculative.

    Leaving aside any government conspiracy it is clear that there was a big failure in established security procedures that allowed Abdulmuttallab to slip through.
     

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