Reading some of the garbage around here lately has been infuriating. You guys are so biased it isn't even funny. There’s a set group of posters out there that just sit there and spew hate that most of the time isn’t even substantial. You basically take advantage of the emotions of the posters here and use them to create unnecessary dislike. Your stats are selective and completely one sided. So much so, that they only tell ½ of the real story. It is one thing to be critical of a player’s performances, and another to have an agenda against them to the point where you will say anything just to make them look bad. I swear, the ratio of worthless bashing posts to informative critical ones is 40:1... <br> All stats used from here on out will be from last years playoffs <br> Here's an example of just how valuable McGrady can be during the playoffs: <br> First off, the points don't lie: Being up there with Kobe and Lebron is no small feat.. <br> Don't forget that all this was while he was injured, yet he still had enough heart to go out there and play through pain to help our team win. Quite obviously, he deeply cares about basketball, and the success of the Rockets. He put his heart and soul into helping us win, going out there and playing the most minutes (while hurt!!) <br> Moving on, we see that he was definitely one of the best players in the playoffs: You guys say he shouldn't be "the guy" during the playoffs, but look at what the team did when he was off the court. A -22 production rating. Yikes!! Just goes to show you that "team ball" can only get you so far before your superstars have to take over.. *Note all these ratings are from just last years playoffs. He is second only to Lebron James and above Kobe Bryant..Mind you, this was playing on a bum knee and an injured shoulder.. <br> <br> Yet some will argue that he only did so because he chucked up a bunch of shots, and didn't do a very good job at everything else.. Well... In terms of efficiency in the playoffs during that same year: Apparently he was efficient enough to be up there alongside the top 3 of the league... That's not so bad for a guy who only does well in the playoffs because "he takes more shots" <br> <br> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br> But of course, that isn't enough for you all, so... Let's go ahead and compare him with Lebron and Kobe's playoff performances: <br> McGrady: <br> <br> <br> <br> Kobe: <br> <br> <br> <br> Lebron: <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> Those numbers aren’t very far off from one another. Tracy McGrady has been giving us amazing superstar value during the postseason the entire time he has been a Rocket. The fact that his numbers are soo very similar to Kobe’s and Lebron’s should tell the whole tale. His 3 point% is a bit low, but so is Kobe’s and Lebron’s. As far as TS% and eFG%, his are very very similar to Lebron’s, with Kobe having a bit of an edge. All in all, I find it completely ludicrous that so many of you are trying to discount what McGrady brings to the table. His value is undeniable, considering how our production fails miserably while he is off the court. He brings scoring, playmaking, and yes even amazing defense during the playoffs. Don’t be selective in your memories… Hope for him to regain the form that he had in last years playoffs (a very realistic scenario) and this team can, and will achieve great things. *all these stats were pulled doing a simple search on: a)http://www.basketball-reference.com/ b)http://www.82games.com/
For further evaluation: <br> Mcgrady: <br> Kobe: <br> Lebron: <br> <br> <br> Again, not too many glaring differences..
Looking at the stats in aggregate, McGrady appeared to play well in the playoffs. But, actually, he struggled a lot in 4th quarters and particularly at home. At the same time, the Rockets had no business winning that series anyways without Yao and with their starting PG missing half the games. So while I'm not overly impressed with his numbers last year, I'm not going to hold the playoff elimination against him.
one argument could be made against this is that last year's playoffs Rockets other than T-mac were defensive minded (Deke and Battier in the starting line-up..); Now defense-focused is good when a team have enough firepower (T-mac + YAO).. but since Yao was out, Defense-oriented became a minus... which explains the big - when T-mac off the court...
<br> I'll agree, he did struggle during the 4th quarter. However, the jazz were playing some furious defense on him. There was always a completely fresh defender with a different style every time against him. Harpring playing physical, AK47 playing with his length, Korver using his height.. T-Mac had to adapt tremendously through that series and took his game to a much higher level. He did all he could, and then some during that series.. <br> That's not the point of this thread though. I made this more to disprove what so many have been saying about McGrady not being "all that good" during the playoffs. The man has played like a man possessed during the offseason. Sure, he has had some trouble too, but for the most part he has given us top 5 player in the league value. Basically, making his "$20 million" salary that everyone loves to bring up justified. Again, its not his fault that Yao was injured (as usual) and the Rockets could not get out of the first round..
<br> Where was Adelman's offense? <br> They were not completely defensive oriented. That is a false fact. They were playing very good D, but this wasn't a JVG team out there. That goes for both offensively and defensively. It is what it is: When Lebron is out, his team struggles When Kobe is out, his team struggles When T-Mac is out, his team struggles <br> That's why their respective teams need a player of their caliber..
We will go no where without the help of T-mac, at least this year. We need him, even at the expense our so called great ball movment, because that wont last in the playoffs, that is where Yao and T-mac will shine.
Wow that's a lot of research Hamza, too bad since it's a positive Tmac thread it will just get rated down the drain.
<br> That's exactly it. What most people do not understand is that the playoffs are a separate entity of their own. Teams play such a high level of D that offensive plans become disrupted, and to a degree useless. That is when it is up to your best player(s) to step up and takeover. That is the time where you let 1. McGrady 2. Yao 3. Artest get to work and carry our team. McGrady has done that so many times. Sure, eventually he falters, but at least he has done it to an extent. So far Yao has not... I'm not saying Yao is not capable, but so far he has never taken a game over in the playoffs. McGrady has at least taken some playoff games over.
<br> Thanks! I did it myself hahahaha =P <br> But seriously, its ok... People will always be subject to their emotions. Not a big deal.. As long as some of the lies that have been circulating are set straight, this thread will have been useful
The real truth to what Tracy brings to the playoffs. Here is the only stat that really matters. 1999-00 First Round Exit 2000-01 First Round Exit 2001-02 First Round Exit 2002-03 First Round Exit 2004-05 First Round Exit 2006-07 First Round Exit 2007-08 First Round Exit Of course none of this is Tracy’s fault even though he was the teams leader.
Hasn't T-macs playoff averages been known every time we are in the playoffs? They always say t-mac has one of the highest playoff PPG avgs... I love t-mac but we are still 0-3 getting out of the first round Chilcutt
Playoffs, just like international basketball, are all about the team. What were Yao's stats in international games? No one has ever have any interests to find that out because the international games are all about the team. Or only one stat matters: 8th best in the world. what are TMAC's stats in playoffs? 7 first round exits. what are Robert Horry's playoff stats? 5 rings.
Necessary thread, thanks. Does people remember his playoffs against the Mavs? MVP level guys, MVP level. Obviously current T-Mac is not that T-Mac, but he can be last years T-Mac, a pretty solid star who can score against ANY defense and at every moment, for hard it would be. I even admit was surprised the last year about his mentality, he proved to have a star-caliber mind, he was icecold, beating all odds, and I swore myself that never again would doubt about him. He only needs games, games and games, that's rythm and confidence. But after Bynums injury, man, I'm more optimistic than EVER with this group. Let's pray for the health.
<br> Well sir, luckily Yao is the leader this year and so therefore everything is on him. <br> Imagine what is possible with Yao "the leader" leading us and T-Mac putting up those types of numbers...
