This may seem stupid, but with boki air'n 2-3 shots per game, i thought i might say this. People are questioning his shooting ability, and even though i havent been able to watch all the games in person, nachbars shot does not seem too bad. It is inconsistant, but whenever a shooter airballs, it is not because of faulty form, or lack of practice. If a player airballs the shot short, it is 95% of the time because of lack of leg power (fatigue, or not taking a focused look at the front of the rim). if he airballs the shot over the rim its because he rushed his shot and his hands moved faster than his normal rhthym. So his shot is actually better than eddie griffen or maddux (u prolly already know that) because thier shots are unpredicatbly off to the left or right and very flat. This thread may seem stupid to most and ur gonna say don't waste server space, but people are saying he cant shoot, but after personally seeing him light it up once in warmups b4 a game and once at westside at the begging of last year, just wanted to clarify that he can shoot!
I agree. It's obvious that Boki has shooting skill/good technique. And because of the reason's you mentioned, also add that the mental aspect also comes into play. Once he improves his conditioning and rhythm, his confidence will follow along. Develop muscle memory and conditioning, then confidence.
As of right now....... Griffin, the shot might be ugly but he still shot 33%, a lot better than boki and is actually a respectful percentage. And who gives a $h!7 if the shot is ugly, Kenny Smith's shot aint exactly the mona lisa either but you know always liked it on the kick outs.
33% is NOT respectable. 38% would be "respectable." The closer you get to 40%. The best shooters, shoot better than 40% from the 3-point line.
Dan Langhi didn't get this much consideration on his Airball What makes Boki so special? Rocket River an Airball is an Airball
i worked as a shooting coach for 4 years. and i've seen this happen with everyone from little girls to mens college players. when you change a players shooting form (for the better of course) it takes them a long time to adjust to it. i allways tell them "dont worry about making the shots, just concentrate on using the correct form." "once you get the form down the shots will start to fall." without fail the shots fall short no matter what player it is. things to look for: 1. when they shoot an open jumper, look only at the player not the shot, what does the form look like? bo outlaw's? or wesley person's? 2. is the shot going straight? does the airball land under the rim? or over to the side of the basket?
Says who???? What kind of "math" are you using? You need to define "2 point range." Sorry, but if Griff moved in 1 foot, and shot 22ft shots, he'd still have a bad shooting percentage. Shooting skill, is shooting skill. Either you have it, or you don't. Simply shooting from a particular spot on the court doesn't guarantee you a "good percentage." You still have to actually HIT your shots! Did you know that Griff shoots 40% from "2 point range???" So, how does he magically get to 50% by shooting 33% from the 3 poine line when he only shoots 40% at "2 point range." Heh, heh...that's just silly... 33% from 3 range, SUCKS!!!!
it is about points If you shoot 33 of 100 from three point range that = 99 points If you shoot 50 of 100 from two point range that = 100 points SO Shoot 33% from 3pt range is roughly equivalent to 50% from 2pt range . . .as far as point total Rocket River
It's a shame that people feel that they have to preface their remarks by saying that. I wonder how much server space is wasted by all the complaining.
Why take that risk? You only have so much time in a game. It's about percentages with a given amout of time. Here's my team.... If you shoot 40% of 100 shots from three point range that = 120 points If you shoot 50% of 100 shots from two point range that = 100 points Oh, and my 2 point shooters just beat your best 3 point shooters as well. 100 to 99. My team wins. Just giving you a realistc view of what you opponents will be shooting. I'd rather have Griff shoot TWO 2 pointers, than ONE 3 pointer. It's all about percentages, and time.
Of course that's better. Shooting 40% on 3 pointers is akin to shooting 60% on two pointers. I am sure you agree that having a jump shooter who shoots 50% on 2 point shots is a great asset. If your entire team has 120 shots in a game and makes 50% (all two pointers) they'd score 120 points. We would all be remarking how great the shooting was in that game. If you take the same team and give them 120 shots and they are all 3 pointers, they only need to make 40 to score the same number of points. In that sense 33% (actually 33.333333333~) is equivalent to 50%. Now the fault in the logic that they are equivalent is the number of MISSES. For every miss, the opposing team has an opportunity to get a rebound and have an extra possession, of course the offensive team does too, but I think we'd all agree that the defensive team (as a rule of thumb) gets more rebounds than the offensive team. That being the case, I'd take the 50% 2 point shooter every time.
An airball here and there is ifne. 2-3/game is not a good sign no matter how you slice it. 33% is respectable from beyond the arc. Not great by any means, but acceptable. 40% from 2 pt. land is not respectable unless your A.I.
Thanks. I only used RR's example to prove a point. By the way, I'd even take Griffs 40% 2 point shooting over him and his 33% 3 point shooting. Number of misses is important. But the way I like to look at it is, number of misses per 48 minutes. Percentage (make/misses) + Time (48 minutes) = Points (X) Then, run that over 82 game season. It'll average itself out. 33% is not a good risk value per 48 minutes. Considering that the other team will try to counter that percentage.
How can you say that 40% from 2 point land is NOT respectable, yet you give 33% 3 point shooting a respectable rating? They both suck! Did you guys ever see any games before 1990? Todays shooters suck. You guys "standards" are way low. You've been pacified into thinking that 30% is good, and 40% is good. Francis shooting 42% from 2 point range is average, at best.
DavidS, Since hardly ANYONE in the NBA shoots 50% from 2 points land..then 33% from 3 pt range is indeed respectable. DD
