The toppling of Saddam's statue was staged according to U.S. Army

This is pretty much given convincing treatment in the documentary entitled "The Control Room." If any of you have a chance to see this film, I strongly recommend it. It is an eye-opening documentary from a very moderate, west-friendly arab perspective.

It details media interactions whirling around this most recent Iraq war.

 

I remember at the time that there were theories that that whole episode was staged. I remember seeing photos of different perspectives of the "celebration" and it showing that there was really not that many people at the site. I guess this pretty much confirms it.

 

Ehh, not that bad, hell this was staged too:



Though I don't know if I'm not as bothered due to the context of this administration's propensity for staging and manipulating "spontaneous" events. ("the soldiers on the Lincoln made that banner themselves!") ("Fake news reporter in support of Medicare bill, signing off!")

 

Even though it seems to be true, just pointing this out makes you guys america haters.

 

is that supposed to be rush and moore?

why is moore thinner than rush? rush isnt fat anymore.

also...the america hating dramatic line is getting old

 

Clinton was a first class liar but he's a first class piker compared to these guys. How many ways can they dream up to lie? Folks around here complain the media doesn't show enough good news from Iraq -- no surprise when half of it turns out to be lies. Wait... did I say half? Let's try every single WMD find (that's gotta be more than 10 smoking guns by now - all wrong) and every single Al Qaeda connect (also, so far, all wrong) and now this. What's the good news exactly? If you break the law you get sado homo raped by white guys instead of brown ones? That's what I call liberation.

I cannot even believe the statue toppling was propaganda. Really. In my most paranoid, liberal freakouts, I'd never have believed they staged that. Some of my liberal friends ask me how pissed off I am these days and I say I can't even get mad anymore. It's just too freaking surreal. The things these guys are doing are so incredibly far past okay, so far past debatable, mostly just so far past believable, that I don't even take it seriously anymore. I can't even get mad. I feel like we're living in a bad parody of a bad book. What really blows me away though is how we keep finding out they're even more dishonest than our most paranoid fantasies. Incredible. It's put me past caring. I don't even care who wins next election. I am so far past angry I'm just gape mouthed numb.

 

Actually, that is just Tom Tomorrow's standard liberal professor and old white conservative business guy. He's been using those for a long time.

 

I don't even care who wins (the) next election

I'm bookmarking this, Batman. When Kerry wins in November and you post delightful paragraphs of glee, I'm gonna throw this in your face.

 

What are you smoking? Since when does Moore wear turtlenecks and sport coats? It's just the stereotype of the liberal prof vs the conservative businessman like Jeff said.

Don't tell me the american hating thing is old until people on the right stop using it as a serious argument. Just look up the F9/11 thread, what do people accuse Moore of being?

 

double post

 

No sh-t, everybody has been on notice of such for over a year now.

But still, silly people run around, wondering why the can't get in my door...

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80246

 

Cool, D. But I won't be posting gleefully about Kerry winning -- only about Bush losing. I said what I said because I deeply hate the lesser of two 'evils' stuff. I know the Right is now stuck with no better argument than to complain that libs think Bush is (gasp) evil, but Jesus, we didn't make him that way -- he chose it. So I have no problem admitting that I believe Bush is evil even though I know the intellectually bankrupt righties around here and elsewhere consider that a gotcha moment in lieu of any substantive policy arguments. He is evil and it's not the fault of those who point it out. Meantime I believe Kerry is lamer than hell. I don't need him to be further left (or right), I certainly don't need him to change up this 'flip-flopping' stuff (especially since his biggest flip flop - the Iraq war - is one he shares with the majority of the nation - surprisingly few of us were on the right side of that one from the start). I just wish he would stand up for what he obviously believes in. Edwards is a hella good first step. He's the first major Democrat in years and years to articulate both the importance and the little known popularity of Dem party priniciples. The two Americas stump speech is a great first start to reminding Americans they are mostly Democrats, whether they know it or not. But until Kerry does some of the same, I won't join you in being glad at all that he's president. Only that the other guy isn't. You're right that I look forward to that, at least. You're also right that it's going to happen.

 

Did anyone think they pulled down the statue with regular civilian cars?

Sickening. Really.

 

So was Mission Accomplished, and where did that get us?