The Texans HAVE to draft Bryce Young

zeeshan2 · Nov 11, 2023

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[Russini] The pressure is on in Carolina. I'm told ownership isn't thrilled with the offense and the development of their #1 overall pick Bryce Young. But do they still believe they picked the right player?
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Did they pick the right quarterback? Most NFL executives and coaches around the league are emphatic that it’s too early to tell and that it’s unfair to judge Young after only nine games. I was told when this organization selected him out of Alabama, almost every single team employee was on board. We’re talking scouts, coaches, head coach, general manager and owner — all believed Young was the guy based on their research, data and in-person meetings.

The opinion that Young is the future is still the unified belief based on conversations with multiple team sources. That’s excellent news for Panthers fans — everyone remains in lockstep.

So if the player appears right, what’s wrong?

I don’t need a person in the know to tell me the following: The young quarterback needs help. He needs protection. He needs a run game. He needs cleaner route running from his receivers. He needs play calling that instills confidence and creates momentum.

However, I am told Panthers owner David Tepper is frustrated by this offense and its lack of improvement. Some in the building believe the roster hasn’t been built correctly, while others criticize the offense overall. This is an offense some league sources have described as “boring,” “predictable” and even “lifeless.”

Before selecting Reich, there was a strong push to hire Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, but Johnson decided to stay in Detroit. The team also interviewed Bills offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey, Chargers offensive coordinator Kellen Moore and current Broncos head coach Sean Payton.

One of the things that separated Reich from other candidates was the staff he would assemble in Charlotte, according to a source with knowledge of the process.

Reich has the largest staff in the NFL, with assistants from many different backgrounds and philosophies. All these unique minds were expected to blend and create fireworks. So far the show has been a dud.

I’m told the message in the building is, “Ownership needs to see more progress on offense. There needs to be development and improvement.”

If the second half of the regular season looks like the first half, I expect Carolina to make changes. I have learned those in power want to start seeing an offense that looks like what Young executed to precision at the University of Alabama, which included bubbles and RPOs, and that leans into his strengths. Ownership is satisfied with the defense and special teams.

Reich is in the first year of a four-year contract. He works for an owner who knows his reputation is that he’s impatient. Tepper recently fired a Charlotte FC coach for the second time in two seasons, and Reich is the fifth head coach the Panthers have employed since Tepper bought the team five years ago (including interims).

The head coach designs the structure of the offensive scheme, and though the play calling has been handed over to offensive coordinator Thomas Brown, this is still Reich’s offense. This isn’t all on Reich, though. It was explained to me by others in the building that the most important goal for a rookie quarterback is keeping him healthy. It’s also about building confidence, installing enough of the offense without overwhelming or confusing him and helping him avoid making horrific mistakes.

Patience is perhaps the hardest but most important trait needed within the organization.
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Fulgore · Nov 12, 2023

Lol. Pressure is on in Carolina but ownership forced them to take a qb they didn’t want. Smh

JayGoogle · Nov 12, 2023

Lol those Carolina's boards are on fire right now.

I feel bad for them...I keep thinking about it....

One thing to draft what could be a bust. It is another thing to trade the farm to move up AND draft the bust.

I guess we will see. Panthers will likely fire their coach and/or GM because it is hard to imagine rolling out the same decision makers after such a blunder.

DreamShook · Nov 12, 2023

Fulgore said: ↑

Lol. Pressure is on in Carolina but ownership forced them to take a qb they didn’t want. Smh
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Frank Reich to ownership every time CJ goes off:

phasors28 · Nov 12, 2023

JayGoogle said: ↑

Lol those Carolina's boards are on fire right now.

I feel bad for them...I keep thinking about it....

One thing to draft what could be a bust. It is another thing to trade the farm to move up AND draft the bust.

I guess we will see. Panthers will likely fire their coach and/or GM because it is hard to imagine rolling out the same decision makers after such a blunder.
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Maybe fire ownership instead?

Fulgore · Nov 12, 2023

DreamShook said: ↑

Frank Reich to ownership every time CJ goes off:

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Facts

zeeshan2 · Nov 12, 2023

Newlin · Nov 12, 2023

JayGoogle said: ↑

Lol those Carolina's boards are on fire right now.

I feel bad for them...I keep thinking about it....

One thing to draft what could be a bust. It is another thing to trade the farm to move up AND draft the bust.

I guess we will see. Panthers will likely fire their coach and/or GM because it is hard to imagine rolling out the same decision makers after such a blunder.
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I’ve been reading those boards. At first they were just in denial thinking it was just very early to make any real judgment about CJ and Bryce. Now they are practically suicidal. They realize trading those picks and drafting Bryce may have set back their franchise for years.

I do feel sorry for them, but mainly I’m just happy I’m not them.

Pringles · Nov 12, 2023

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I’ve been reading those boards. At first they were just in denial thinking it was just very early to make any real judgment about CJ and Bryce. Now they are practically suicidal. They realize trading those picks and drafting Bryce may have set back their franchise for years.

I do feel sorry for them, but mainly I’m just happy I’m not them.
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I feel we've gone through our own shitstorm during the BoB era.

Scarface281 · Nov 12, 2023

JayGoogle said: ↑

Lol those Carolina's boards are on fire right now.

I feel bad for them...I keep thinking about it....

One thing to draft what could be a bust. It is another thing to trade the farm to move up AND draft the bust.

I guess we will see. Panthers will likely fire their coach and/or GM because it is hard to imagine rolling out the same decision makers after such a blunder.
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If you go to carolinahuddle, they all blame the owner (specifically owner's wife) for the Young pick. They say the coaching staff wanted CJ or Ant. The Panthers owner put a lot of stock into that S2 test apparently too

zeeshan2 · Nov 12, 2023

Here's another fun stat.
Bryce Young has 27 Throw Aways on 290 attempts.

The 2nd closest is Sam Howell with 21 Throw Aways on 353 attempts.

Meaning Young is throwing the ball away at an insanely higher clip than even the next guy behind him. He'd rather have Carolina punt the ball and go to defense than play QB and give his WRs a chance. Just last night he threw it away 5 times and I think multiple were on 3rd downs. Not the 1st time he's done it.
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https://www.catscratchreader.com/20...ommentID=1a0063eb-50df-42db-b196-b6c1c9abd570

zeeshan2 · Nov 13, 2023

deb4rockets · Nov 14, 2023

zeeshan2 said: ↑

https://www.catscratchreader.com/20...ommentID=1a0063eb-50df-42db-b196-b6c1c9abd570

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It helped us for sure after picking Stingley over Sauce last year.

zeeshan2 · Nov 14, 2023

TheRealist137 · Nov 14, 2023

https://nesn.com/2023/11/this-weirdly-timed-speculation-connects-patriots-bill-obrien-to-panthers/

RIP Bryce Youngs career if true

NewRoxFan · Nov 15, 2023

CAR now trying to spin things...

red5rocket · Nov 15, 2023

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Why couldnt' Deshaun have surgery before the season started? MHJ would've looked lovely in a Texans jersey.

conquistador#11 · Nov 15, 2023

And then there was one:
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...shua-dobbs-surges-texans-c-j-stroud-new-no-1/

MadMax · Nov 15, 2023

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DOESN'T MATTER, BRIAN!! AFC SOUTH CHAMPS, BRIAN!!

red5rocket · Nov 15, 2023

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DOESN'T MATTER, BRIAN!! AFC SOUTH CHAMPS, BRIAN!!
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Do they know McClain is always wrong?

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