The Rockets need to use Shandon better and more... but they also need to all play a bit more like Shandon. Early in the game, Steve and Cuttino were on a 3-1 fast break. Instead of the simple pass for the sure score, Steve decided to throw the ball up, and his partner didn't even get the ball. A couple series later, Shandon was leading a break... a simple pass to his man, the ball goes in the basket, and the Rockets get two points. Mobley should not have taken that shot. Moochie needs to know how much time is on the shot clock. Francis and Mobley need to start being team players. Finally, when Bryant is playing that well, Cuttino Mobley has NO BUSINESS GUARDING HIM. He's shorter and less athletic. If Shandon had been guarding him, he might well never have made that shot. Selfless offense, sound defense. That's Shandon. That's what we need from the rest of the team. ------------------ Shandon Anderson rocks. The lottery sucks. Playoffs 2001.
No Kidding Tonight i would have put cuttino or steve on shaq over putting them on kobe. He had a great game. Shandon really does need to get more touches. Like an artice in the chronice said, shandon best defense against kobe might have been some offense. [This message has been edited by vj23k (edited December 21, 2000).]
Rudy's substitution patters are downrite pathetic this year! ------------------ SUCK POLICE!!!!!! To point out individuals or teams that have managed to reach the pinnacle of SUCKINESS!!!!! ----- Rudy T SUCKS! The man needs to figure out: -That its okay to play Shandon in clutch situations. -Mobes doesn't have to get the ball every single time at the end of the game. -That its okay to actually give the ball to Steve or Mo at the end of the game.
Well that is really a stupid comment, because Kobe never guarded Shandon. He guarded only Francis and Walt! Bet to that! Boy, the venters are out tonight. Coming fresh from the game and loving a lot that I saw, I'm going to challenge this lame shortsighted crap nearly everyone is spewing tonight. get the facts right, at least. [This message has been edited by heypartner (edited December 22, 2000).]
Heypartner: Perhaps that's what it makes it frustrating... the fact that there IS a great deal that Houston is doing right. For me at least, that's the infuriating part. They played a fine game for about 45 minutes... and then decided to play stupid basketball at the end. The Lakers are a very good team, but they didn't win so much as Houston self-destructed. How does anything that Houston did right change the fact that Mobley should NEVER have THOUGHT about taking that shot, or that he should never have been the one guarding Bryant? Or that Steve and Cuttino still prefer flashy alley-oops that don't always go in to two point lay ups. If you want to write a positive thread, I'll be happy to read it, and probably agree with it... but that doesn't meant that bad things didn't happen as well. ------------------ Shandon Anderson rocks. The lottery sucks. Playoffs 2001.
Haven...what do you mean the Laker's didn't do anything to win this game. And how we can blame a 11-second decision down by 3 points, is beyond me. That was the best 3 pointer we were going to see. What, should we have passed it around and shot a freaking 2 pointer with 3 seconds left to win it. ummm...we are down by 3 points. you take the best looking 3 available. I'm really pissed at the showing of this board right now. I'm throwing elbows. I'm not looking for a positive thread. I'm looking to stuff each and everyone one of you that spews out non-factual crap tonight after coming home hoarse and short of spirits to read this stuff. backseat freaking coaches! venting is fine, but get your FACTS straight or wear your pet-peeves on your sleeve!
Okay then how about Steve running through a maze of screens (ala Reggie) to tire out Kobe? ------------------ SUCK POLICE!!!!!! To point out individuals or teams that have managed to reach the pinnacle of SUCKINESS!!!!! ----- Rudy T SUCKS! The man needs to figure out: -That its okay to play Shandon in clutch situations. -Mobes doesn't have to get the ball every single time at the end of the game. -That its okay to actually give the ball to Steve or Mo at the end of the game.
strike two...because Steve is a freaking PG that runs an offense not runs through a maze of screens like Reggie. Just give it up tonight Rockets03...I'm throwing elbows and you are in the way.
i watched the game and this was my conclusion..rudyt needed shandon in the game to check bryant and when the game is on the line u force it out of the hot guys hand..that being his..as for mo..i didnt catch the beginning but from the stats and fg % i feel he shouldve been the main option in the fourth quarter..along with francis and mobley..as for mobley..he couldnt contain kobe and needed help..this wasnt one of his better performances.. on dream..he played well but he got was too much time in the 4th quarter..i could tell he was winded..his shot power was gone..cato should have been brought in...and heypartner..im gonna politely disagree that we should all be happy with tonights performance..because plain and simple it was the rockets who beat themselves more than the lakers stopping them..the spacing and ball movement in the 4th quarter was terrible...and no im not happy.. the rockets are a team now with taylor as a legit inside presence meaning they should start winning vs. the elite..im not really mad but moral victories are long gone for this team because as i see it they have the ability to grab a top 5 seed in the west although itll be tough..i understand their learning and will be fine i just dont feel as a fan i should be satisfied with moral victories..when it seemed evident the rockets had control of the game..on the lakers theyre not as good as last yr because they dont know who their "man" is.. Is it kobe or is it shaq??? Thats just my take. ------------------ How Sweet It Is! How Sweet It Is! Gene Peterson on the rockets winning the 1995 championship over the Orlando Magic
heypee u moron! what the hell do u think steve plays when moochie is in the game? moochie is in control of the freakin ball. thus steve is free to rome around. but rudy doesnt even know how to properly run a pick and roll or even how to set a freakin screen. ------------------ SUCK POLICE!!!!!! To point out individuals or teams that have managed to reach the pinnacle of SUCKINESS!!!!! ----- Rudy T SUCKS! The man needs to figure out: -That its okay to play Shandon in clutch situations. -Mobes doesn't have to get the ball every single time at the end of the game. -That its okay to actually give the ball to Steve or Mo at the end of the game.
I'm not asking you to be happy. I just belligerently challenging all the ranters with lame fact....don't make me elbow you.
Rockets03, Give it up. My whole point you just MADE, and you don't even see it! let me give you a hint...Kobe did play a hell of a lot of defense, and he still scored. Making him run through picks guarding Shandon to rant at Rudy is so wrong on two counts... 1. he never guarded Shandon, 2. he had to play hard defense against Francis and Walt and it still didn't effect his offense. do you want another elbow Rockets03. Or are you ready now to just cuss me out and go away!
ok my mistake heypartner, no id prefer not to be elbowed..what do u think of my take on the game?? ------------------ How Sweet It Is! How Sweet It Is! Gene Peterson on the rockets winning the 1995 championship over the Orlando Magic
Its not that hard to play defense when all he has to do is watch Steve standing at the three point line while Mobes is playing with ball in an iso. ------------------ SUCK POLICE!!!!!! To point out individuals or teams that have managed to reach the pinnacle of SUCKINESS!!!!! ----- Rudy T SUCKS! The man needs to figure out: -That its okay to play Shandon in clutch situations. -Mobes doesn't have to get the ball every single time at the end of the game. -That its okay to actually give the ball to Steve or Mo at the end of the game.
call me insane but it hink i would want jerry sloan as an assistant right now..... rudy is a great players coach but his offensive schemes i'm beginning to question. the rockets need to utilize shandon more.... and cat mobley well in my opinion the boy is umm... well he's still a child. ------------------ "Wahooo"-homer I'm not only a fan but I'm also the bartender at clutchcity chat For the last time I'm not Tybrave!!!!!
NO WAY I LET TY-CHIP END THIS THREAD WITH THAT POST!!! Keeping it short and sweet, the Rockets played a pretty good game last night. Mo was very good, though I'd like to see him attack the rim more and post up more. Now I'm looking for consistency from Mo, but it looks like he's shaking the "Clipper Syndrome" and starting to play competitive B-ball again. Let's just give the Lakers, and especially Kobe, credit. They played a good game last night. The Rockets had good chances to win the game, but the Lakers were the better team down the stretch. I mean, Fox stepped up with the 3s in the 3rd that kept the Rockets from taking control of the game, Shaq started hitting at least some of his free throws, Kobe was just AWESOME all night, and the Lakers picked up the defensive intensity late in the game. I am very happy with the Rockets to this point, and feel that they are exactly where I hoped they would be before the season started: IMPROVED. They're still a player (SF) away from being a playoff team, but they're taking better care of the ball, the offensive sets and plays are starting to round into shape, and the defense has improved. And in terms of Shandon's D, let's remember that Kobe started the game 10-10. I don't think anyone could've stopped Kobe last night; quite a few of his shots were under distress, with hands in his face, drawing contact, etc. YOU'RE WELCOME!!! ------------------ "ON-BEE-TAH-BULL!!", Hakeem Abdul Olajuwon, alumnus, University of Houston
Heypartner, let me get this one. This is in response to ROckets03's post on a CLOSED thread that questioned Rudy's decision not to double Kobe or run Steve through picks. Hope you enjoy!! Anyone who has ever played a minute of BBall will tell you that it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE, especially with the offense that the Lakers run, to consistently double team a perimeter player. Now true, you can do what a lot of teams do to Steve by sending a little trap at him at the top so that he can give up the ball, but that works because Steve is the primary initiator on offense (remember, he's the PG). But a quality NBA G can breakdown a consistent diet of traps and double teams, which is one reason why you don't see a lot of teams press and trap, a la NCAA basketball. Now add that to the fact that Kobe doesn't always intitate the offense and plays on a team that runs a motion offense which consistently put him in scoring position last night, plus his being in the "ZONE", and what you have is a player that was bound to explode on any one. Remember, quite a few of Kobe's shots were outside Js, at around 17-20 feet with a hand in his face. Now in terms of running Steve through a series of screens, let's remember that we are Rocket fans, not 76er fans. Go watch 76er games if you want to see a PG (Iverson) run through screens and setting up for shots. I like the way the hometown's PG plays, thank you very much. I remember watching one of Jordan's videos, and he was doing a segment about the '86 playoff game against Boston where he went for 63. To paraphrase, Jordan said that he was so "zoned out" and had so much energy that he could have played another game right after that one, a sentiment echoed by several players over the years (Bird, Isiah, etc). With that in mind and Kobe "zoning out" like last night, with his increased energy, there wasn't going to be a tiring out of Kobe or hampering his O by making him play defense. YOU'RE WELCOME!!! ------------------ "ON-BEE-TAH-BULL!!", Hakeem Abdul Olajuwon, alumnus, University of Houston
precisely. i think people are way too high on shandon anderson around here. i've read numerous, ridiculous posts about how shandon should have been guarding kobe on that last play. bullsh!t. maybe you have forgotten kobe went 10-10 against shandon in the first. and really, how many times have we seen shandon either a) pass up on shots that break down the offense, thus leading to the "hated" cuttino mobley "jack-ups" or b) chunk up a ball that falls two feet short of the rim or better yet... c) dribble the damn ball off his feet or knees or just flat out lose the rock? i'm gonna review the tape of yesterday's game tonight and see how many points he cost us on offense. now i'm gonna skip over to these ridiculous anti-mobley threads..... ------------------
What, we should scrap the Mobes ISO, so we can wear down Francis running him through Reggie Miller screens as Kobe gallops along at 5 inches taller that gives him the advantage of going under the picks. Kobe is the best non-front-line defender in the league. You know Jordan holds the record for most elections to 1st Team All Defense (yes, he does!). Kobe will break that record! You can't wear down those two. If that is your plan, Phil and Kobe are just going to laugh at you. thanks Live. I felt all alone on this board last night. DVauthrin (or anyone with a tape)...the Moochie/Dream pnr in the 4th was open all night. Then something happened and the Lakers clamped down at around 4 minutes. Moochie made two bad decisions in response, and Rudy yanked him. That's what I want to look at. I was too busy yelling to really focus in on what happened there. But, Moochie did get yanked.
i'm at work right now, so i don't have the luxury of looking at the tape while i type this, but if i remember correctly.... shaq was switching on the pnr off of dream. however, he wasn't really "showing" on the other side to stop mooch. mooch didn't take advantage of the situation at all. he didn't shoot the medium-range j, and he didn't feed hakeem on the mismatch either. he just "nutted up". seriously, though, i'm sure i'll review the tape in it's entirety tonight. ------------------
