The Reason for Trading Steve After Watching The Spurs/Lakers

EXACTLY !!!!


DD

 

He played well against his opponent, and helped us stay in the series. yea we should trade him.

 

Steve isn't going anywhere. So forget about it.

 

If I’m deciding whether Steve should stay or go, the 82 regular season games hold a lot more credence then 5 playoff games against a team that has been burned by other point guards time and time again.

 

Great post. I can't help thinking the same thing. Parker is a good player and all, but GP looks completely lost out there on defense, just like he did against us.

I think Clutch called it before the series when said he hopes the team doesn't have a strong showing in the playoffs because it would be fool's gold and everyone's short memory would keep them from wanting to break the team up.

 

we have a team?

 

SF's stats for the season:
Regular season: 16.6pt (40.3%), 5.5reb, 6.2ast, 3.7to
Reg. Sea. vs Lakers: 19.0pt (49.1%), 6.5reb, 7.8ast, 3.5to
Playoff vs Lakers: 19.2pt (42.9%), 8.4reb, 7.6ast, 4.2to


Not sure if SF had turned the corner but I think he has always played well against lakers.

 

and the hating continues..................No need to argue with any Steve hater b/c in the end it's pointless. The guy was probably the only one who elevated his game in the playoffs. If the Rockets would have won the series which they could have (game1 & 4 could easily have been theirs), no one would be doubting Steve's performance and calling it a lucky thing or due to the Fakers lack of defense. The difference betwn. Spurs and Rockets is Tim Duncan. Give Stevie Tim Duncan and he would easily have a ring and working on #2.

 

That series was fools gold. How many times have we said francis and yao has turned the corner. They stilled played inconsistant in the playoffs. These team is the only team that makes you go mad about every other game. I dont know about you, but I dont like steve with all his "heart" and emotions. How many times have we seen francis play without thinking and make stupid plays after another. Theres the problem right there, SF plays with too much emotion and that causes him to make mistakes, Where as yao doesnt play enough emotion and fire. Francis was as or even more inconsistant as yao this season. Francis doesnt seem to "get it" and by his own admission he thinks he is already gone and will be traded. If he thinks that, do you think he will work on his game this offseason to improve his shooting and decision making or will he be thinking return of the franchise in the eastern conference.

 

According to the stats dragon167 posted, he didn't elevate his game. He played against the Lakers how he has always played against them. Face it. The Lakers are just a great matchup for Steve's game.

 

And how is this different from the Parker better than Francis thread?

Duncan won a ring his second year. Shaq and Hakeem were in the Finals their second year so we should get rid of Yao.

 

Yeah, he took advantage of the a good match up, trade him.

 

Those stats are from what.....The regular season.....exactly. The post season is completely different and you people hated on him for the regular season and how he would crumble in the playoffs b/c of the "pressure". The guy played exceptionally well and proved these idiots wrong and now you try and find other excuses.

 

He gave a good performance. In fact, he performed better than anyone else on the team. It was just not a good enough performance for me to overlook everything prior. It was nothing really special.

The way people have talked about his series against the Lakers and how he has turned the corner, you would think that Steve just gave a performance equal to that of Hakeem’s in the 94-95 playoffs.

 

Nobody is against trading him, as long as the trade is reasonable. Heck, we might trade Yao if the right package comes along.

Check SF's stats 18 ppg as rookie, 20 ppg in year two, 22 ppg in year three, 21 ppg in year four.... and 16.6 ppg this year. He was improving every year until Yao came to the town. I know, it is Yao's team right now so Stevie got to go. Anyway, no need to bash him because of that.

I am interested in what people will say about Yao's performace after Stevie is gone. You can not blame everthing on SF anymore.

 

The point we're making is that Steve's performance in the playoffs doesn't necessarily mean there's a new found well of potential for him or that he's turned a corner. It's great that he took advantage of his matchup. But what about the times he isn't playing against a washed up Gary Payton?

One of the posters made a strong case that his playoff performance mirrored his regular season performance against the Lakers. Therefore, arguments with respect to Steve turning a corner or assuming his great play from prior seasons should take this into account.

Furthermore, the fact that another quick penetrating point guard is doing very well against the Lakers bolsters the idea that the matchup was favorable for Steve and that his potential with this team may not as high as the performance in isolation might indicate.

These are all reasonable ideas. I know this is the internet everyone takes shots because they're anonymous, but there's no reason for the animosity.

 

Why does everyone assume that Steve is a lock to be traded? JVG is a straight forward guy and doesn't seem to side step difficult questions by the media and answers them straight-forwardly. Did anyone else hear the JVG interview on SR 610 AM? He had nothing but praise for Stevie, the only negative he had of steve was the TO's which we all acknowledge is a problem. I am a huge steve fan, but the Rockets are a "team" so if getting rid of stevie makes the team drastically better so be it. I just really believe that Stevie is NOT the problem, and would be a shame to lose a guy with great character, enthusiasm, who plays his ass off and until this past season has put up SICK #'s. This guy would be mentioned with the same breath as the other great players in this league if Yao was at Duncan's or SHaq's level. The problem is that we live in a society of instant gratification in that we want everything to happen NOW! Sometimes it just takes time, especially in sports. Unless you are the Yankees who can throw $$$ at their problems or Lakers who have appeal to FA's, you can't become a champion over night. THe ROckets have made strides and all we need is a ligit PF and a good PG who can play 12-15 min/g. BE patient! Peace.

 

I totally agree with qwerty on this issue. SF3 played (for the most part) pretty well because he was playing against GP and Derek Fisher who are poor defensive players. Steve can be neatralized by anyone would plays decent on the ball defence.

That being said, I would trade him ONLY if the right deal came along. The Rox shouldn't ship him out just for the sake of doing so.

 

I would love to see the stats on Lakers' PG defense throughout the season.

Is there a place where I can find out whther PG's play better against the Lakers than their average?