The real reason JVG can't coach offense is that he never played the game. Offense requires more skill and strategy. JVG never played ball so he has no hands on experience on how boring and unsuccessful a half-court offense is. Defense is really just hustle and less skill. JVG needs offensive assistant coach. By the way, watching the game today it looked obivious that the players were not comfortable and not happy with the offense. T-Mac seems like he dont care and Juwan seems unhappy he is coming off the bench even though he wont say it. Mo seems like ordinary Mo who plays no defense and can't rebound. Charlie Ward proves why the Suns waived him. I think CD needs to fired and JVG needs a reality check.
he will -not- get fired, noone will be able to replace him, you want some newbie coach? i dont think so phil is gone
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Tex Winter (the creator of the famous 'Triangle Offense') played ball either.
The irony of this thread is that JVG actually played PG in a division III school that went on to win a regional (?) title. So does that make the rest of your post irrelevant?
Yeah, Division III is very close to NBA ball, I am sure the plays that work at that level will KILL at the NBA level. How was the offense on that Div III school? Did they score a lot of points? Was it efficient? JVG has never been known as an offensive coach, I wonder why? He is putting this team together, and the glaring lack of athleticism is killing this team, they are slower than a snail crossing a line of salt. DD
So only people who have played in the NBA make good coaches? His original statement was that he can't coach offense because he never played the game. PS - Coach of the Nets Lawrence Frank never played college or pro basketball. They did pretty well before gutting their team. Don't even start Dakota. Your emotions are going to make you look like a fool again.
Absolutely not, I agree with that point, I just don't think JVG is that good of a coach, particularly as an offensive coach. His teams never seem to be at the top of the offensive charts, even when he has good players. JVG is one of those slow it down and call all the plays coaches. Rudy was better, IMHO. DD
Well, for those who are seriously questioning JVG's use of Boki, offensive scheme, or anything else; he is supposed to be on SportsRadio 610 tomorrow at 6:30 am. Get your calls in and lets see what his explanation is.
This does bring up a nice point: Coaching Staff: Tom Thibodeau Patrick Ewing Andy Greer Steve Clifford Jeff Van Gundy Exactly Which one of them is the entry Pass into the Post Specialist Which one has EVER fed the Post? that was NOT in Practice Rocket River Maybe we need to get Avery Johnson on the coaching Staff
Great point, Rudy used to talk about how hard it was to get it to Hakeem, and that they practiced it a lot. Boki is a good entry passer, as is Tmac. The rest are just average or less than. DD
But that wasn't the point of his post - whether or not JVG is a good coach or not isn't the point - his point was "The real reason JVG can't coach offense is that he never played the game". That's obviously wrong - the reason must be something else (if you believe he's not a good offensive coach, that is). Seems like we agree that that's not necessarily true. My question is - how can a guy who sucks because he "never played the game" be so praised as a defensive coach? I guess you don't need to play to know how to coach defense. I'll never buy the argument that a coach who's never played can't coach. It's like saying an architect who's never built a house can't design one. There are experiences that someone who has played can bring to the coaching side of it, but I don't think it's mandatory. I don't care if his teams are at the top of the offensive charts to be honest. I just want to win games and he's proven that his teams can win games without lighting up the scoreboard. The Pistons proved it - the Rockets last year averaged 89.8 ppg. The Pistons averaged 90.1. As stupid as it sounds, scoring points doesn't necessarily win games. And as odd as it may sound to some, very few NBA teams with average defenses win titles. Good enough offenses with a strong defense seems to do the trick. That being said I'm waiting for JVG to prove he can give me a good enough offense that's consistent. If I blame him for anything about this team it's for it's inconsistency.
Right - I'm sure the collective basketball knowledge of these men: Tom Thibodeau Patrick Ewing Andy Greer Steve Clifford Jeff Van Gundy is not sufficient to know how to throw an entry pass. You actually have to complete the "36 chambers of entry pass" at the Shaolin temple on WuDan Mountain in order to know the intricate skill of throwing the ball to your center. The problem isn't not being able to throw it, the problem is throwing it to a slowish center who is not a good leaper, doesn't hve the greatest balance, and who is vulnerable to quicker defenders and is often fronted and double teamed without the ball.
So basically . . it is YAO's fault? Some but not all . . .there is an ART about it esp doing it at game tempo Knowing how a engine works and sliding under a car to fix one are two different things Rocket River
No. It's not anybody's fault. It's just a fact of life with respect to our players, their skillsets, and the way defense is played in the NBA today. Honestly, do you think that there's some magical technique that is not capable of being taught or comprehended by "outlanders" like Patrick freaking Ewing? If so, what? The answer is that there is not one. Anyway, who cares? In that situation, when you have a player being double teamed, with or without the ball, 100 NBA coaches out of 100 will tell you that, rather than throwing a risky entry pass to the double teamed player work the ball around to the open man. That's not even coaching 101, that's just simple math: 5-4 =1.
I'm quoting this because this is your chance, guys. Put your money where you mouth is and tell all of these complaints to JVG. See how he responds to some hard hitting, well-informed questions. If I was still down there, I know I'd be taking advantage of this opportunity (of course, I love calling in to radio shows). So show me what you're made of, Clutch Fans. Lets see you put the heat on our offensively inept coach. Make him squirm.
