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the real problem i have with adelman

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by God's Son, Dec 29, 2008.

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  1. God's Son

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    is that under his tenure and maybe cause of his laid back style, this team now officially has no identity!

    say what u may about jvg, but with him we KNEW rockets were a defense first team. now the rox are stuck in no man's land, with shaky offense and very shaky defense. the only other variable we can discuss is deke but i truly think it was jvg and thibadau and the pressure they put on the players individually and as a team to defend.

    i think this team has more talent than jvg ever had, but i also think they will do worse under adelman cause they now lack an identity and any sort of energy to start off the game. i think the only saving grace in terms of team chemistry and raising the level of intensity is signing deke and having some leadership in that pansy locker room

    iam so frustrated! :(
     
  2. saleem

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    I'm no JVG fan,but I agree with you.
     
  3. W-Mac

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    The real problem is that he HAS to put his starters back in to finish games..WHY?? Whats wrong with going with the group that got you back into the game? Terrible coaching on his part...
     
  4. BruceHR

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    JVG is much better, we need discipline. Adelman is too soft with our players..
     
  5. Shaunjon

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    Right!? Let the people that are playing well finish the game! I knew they were gonna blow the game tonight when I saw Yao, T-Mac, and Rafer stepping back on the court
     
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    The realy problem is he never learns to stop going to Yao.

    THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM.

    How many times have we lost because we went to Yao EVERY play?

    We nearly lost to the Jazz because of this, and I thought Artest was a wakeup call to Adelman.

    Then today's game Adelman goes Yao again and again. It wasn't working.

    Then I THOUGHT we had another wakeup call to Adelman when McGrady hit a shot to bring us within two. I thought that was a wakeup call. I thought we knew that the ball should now go to either McGrady or Artest.

    Then we decided to go to the COLDEST hands in the game.

    COME ON??? What is going through his mind??
     
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    Why wasn't CHUCK HAYES out there trying to guard Jamison?????? Scola isn't a great defender, take away his charging fouls and hes as soft as Novak was... Landry is athletic on defense but his size and lack of experience makes him a tad weak at defending skilled PF's... put in our guy who makes a LIVING doing what we weren't able to get out of our other two PF's and thats some HARD NOSED DEFENSE!!!!
     
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    JVG sucks as a coach. We 've seen too many same or worse games under JVG. JVG lovers must not have memory.
     
  9. jzmagic

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    if JVG were here, you guys would be complaining about his predictable pound into Yao offense, which imo would cost us more games considering how unclutch Yao is.
     
  10. W-Mac

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    Cause Jamison would eat his lunch and draw a foul...Hayes is too slow and a fouling machine!
     
  11. Ari

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    I completely agree. I had lots of issues with JVG, but on a team led by two superstars who lack any leadership skills in the locker room or on the court, we HAD to have a coach who was like a pit bull, who was so intense that it robbed off on our other players. JVG filled that role, and Adelman just does not have the personality to fill that role.

    We need the Little General to come in and straighten up these guys, I know you guys hate his voice but he is EXACTLY the kind of fiery leader who will get on these guys' collective asses.

    If not, then go on the cheap and hire Mutombo as our head coach. That might just do the trick :D

    WE NEED A LEADER!!! And Adelman, you ain't it!
     
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    I couldn't stand the 7-9 minute stretches of no FG offense when JVG was around and overall I was one of the excited fans about Adelman coming to Houston. But I have to admit that at least under JVG, you would likely not see the Wizards walking layups all night long like they did tonight.

    No team identity at all. I just wish the Rockets had a fierce disposition like I see with the Celtics, Lakers, Cavs, and even the Spurs. Those teams just seem to have intensity for 48 minutes a game. Say what you want about Garnett, but I loved that game where he got into all his team-mates faces and even made Big Baby cry. That is exactly what I'm talking about!
     
  13. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    This team has no leadership...none...

    DD
     
  14. zazahan

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    Rankings Team Shooting (Defense):
    FG%: 8 Houston 94.5 36.6 82.7 44.21 (Boston 1, Clevenland 2)
    PTS: 7 Houston 94.5 (Clevenland 1, Boston 2)
    OWN Rebounding: 7 Houston .262 .741 .511 10.6 11.4 32.6 30.0 43.2
    OPP Rebounding: 16 Houston .262 .741 .511 10.6 11.4 32.6 30.0 43.2 41.4 (Boston 2, Clevenland 3)

    Sadly we are a mediocre defensive team now.

    EDT:
    Team Shooting (Offense) - NBA
    FG%: Phoenix 1, Boston 2, Clevenland 3, Houston 23
    PTS: Lakers 1, Warriors 2, Houston 15

    I didn't know we sucked so badly. :mad:
     
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    The Rockets offense only 2 things

    1)Dump the ball to Yao and let him go to work.

    2)Dump the ball to Tmac and let him go to work.

    The rest of the team camps at the 3 point line.
     
  16. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    With the starters agreed, but that second unit looked to be the exact opposite of that.
     
  17. BruceHR

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    Sorry, I dont think our superstars have leadership, Yao, tmac, Ron. Maybe Ron is the best among this three, tmac and yao are softest players in the league, if we dont have Ron we are 0-4 in a row, when can our "superstars" playing like leaders. Also who can make last shoot, the team need to find the answer.

    Adelman is a great gentleman, as a coach, if see his players dreaming all the night, I hope he can say some trash words, just as Ron said, if I saw my teammates play not by heart, I will go crazy.. Thus I think Adelman's life in Houston wont be long..
     
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    Exactly! Yao is not a leader. Tracy is not a leader. Adelman is not a leader.
     
  19. Ari

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    TRUST ME we are worst than our numbers show on defense. We are in the middle of the pack right now, and in a league that is ALREADY soft on defense, that is a disaster waiting to happen.

    By the way, I am not a big JVG fan or anything like that, but the best running and smoothest offense we EVER had (by a far shot) was in JVG's second season (and McGrady's first) after we traded for guys like David Wesley and Mike James and Jon Barry. That offense was seamless on most nights and if it was not for Sura struggling with injuries we probably would be out of the first round by now.

    Man I miss that team, less talent but tons more heart and more energy and infinitely more leadership. :(

    So the question is not if JVG is better because that is inconsequential, rather the issue is the team has LOST its one and only consistent identity under Adelman.

    There is a reason as to why DEFENSE wins championships, because it is the ONLY thing that a team can consistently do on nightly basis. You can not help it if your shots do not fall on some nights, but you can ALWAYS bring that defensive intensity.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    100% right, I hate having leadership come from the bench, it will not win a championship, someone has to lead on the floor, and the Rockets don't have one.

    They are a bunch of Pippens...and we need a Jordan.

    DD
     

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