... is Morey's ability to draft good players. Given Morey's track record (finding Brooks, Landry, Budinger very late), can you imagine the team he will build with potentially three straight lottery picks (including maybe our own this year)? Even if one or two of those picks are not lottery picks, I trust Morey to pick a better player at 20 than who 80% of the other GM's would pick at 10. We will have a very very good team for years to come without having horrible seasons...
I know, specially if Lebron, Wade, Bosh all stay, and the best they can do is overpay Boozer and Johnson, with out any quality players around those two... :grin: future high picks... :grin: --RB
The Knicks have finally cleared isaih's trash and have room to sign real players. I doubt that they will be in the lottery the next couple of years.
dude, "The real beauty of this trade is that" you could have said this on the "trade" threads already out there? C'mon, now.
Morey will will defiantly add some solid players with these picks or use them to trade down the road.
Except for the fact that any max contract the Knicks can offer, won't be as much as Star's original team's can offer. Chad ford said the other day on ESPN that any FA who went to the Knick's to take a max contract would be leaving like 30 million dollars on the table. Who wants to do that?
We got a veteran center in Yao, a veteran 2-guard in Mevin Martin, a lockdown defender in Battier, an underappreciated tough guy in Scola, fire-y young point guards in Brooks in Lowry, youth with potential in Budinger and Jordan Hill, a guy who can shoot pretty well if he gets hot in Ariza, and a guy with a headband in Jeffries who will be gone in two years anyway. Sorry, Dwight Howard, looks like you're gonna have to wait your turn. Yao's gonna be the big man with the rings from now on.
I think we give too much credit and too much blame to Morey. In truth Landry was discovered under Cd's watch. CD said as much. Brooks was coveted by Adelman and Adelman also went directly to les and requested Budinger. Still Morey okayed the deals and has been smart enough to know a good deal when he sees one. He should get credit for Dorsey and Taylor and Lowry trade. Plus signing Arriza adn Andersen and trading Artest for Greene. So he deserves some credit. He definitely deserves credit for this trade. He is a better negotiator that I thought. he might not be as great a player evaluator as most on this board think.
hoping you're correct on that one! It does give us another center with SIZE as well and depth at the play making SG position... and potential badassery in the PF spot with little loss from landry gone... hell, we're going to possibly make a deep playoff run without Yao this year.
I don't think the Knicks will get LeBron Wade or Bosh, but there is however a lot of other good players out there. If the Knicks land two go players then in the East they will be likely to at least make the playoffs.
Being in the East probably means they have a real shot at making the playoffs. But who do you think they're going to sign? The only real difference maker at max money available is going to be Wade. But I wonder if he'll leave considering Miami will be able to (1) offer him more than anyone else and (2) bring in max help for him anyway. They could throw the max at Stoudemire - but I wonder why? Boozer is a real chance - he loves the cash, but I would think Miami gets their pick of Stoudemire or Boozer first. Then suddenly there's massive pressure on anyone who signs max money to play in NY - they'll have to do it all themselves, with the only help coming from McGrady and Gallinari. At worst their pick will be in the 16-20 range next year. And they'll be one injury away from getting well into the lottery.
If Morey is a smart man, he uses those Knicks future picks in helping him move up in the strong upcoming draft. I wouldn't wait around and see the Knicks rebuild overnight.
Truly the best thing about this trade has got to be the chicken and rice stand on 56th and 6th! :grin:
Assuming Yao picks up his player option, and the Rockets pick up the team option on Chuck Hayes, the salary for 2011-2012 (summing up from hoopshype) will be $59,614,657 (not including Budinger who is under $1M) and they have to re-sign Kyle Lowry (restricted) and Luis Scola. The luxury tax threshold for this year is currently at $69.2M and expected to go down. Their first round pick will probably cost about $1M-$2M. Meaning they will have over $7M to re-sign Lowry/Scola. I don't know if that would be enough, I think another move during the offseason might go down (maybe buy out Jefferies). If Yao does opt out of his contract to sign a long-term deal before the new CBA goes into effect, it would be a GIFT for the Rockets.
Well said. Thanks for putting things back into perspective (at least for me). Morey should get credit for evaluating the risk of moves/acquisitions/trades. He has made a lot of low risk decisions, but all of them had opportunity for high reward.