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The Player Evaluation Process

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by RealContender, May 20, 2012.

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  1. RealContender

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    Maybe I'm alone on this one, but I put a whole lot more stock in how a player plays on gamedays in college than how he performs at various pre-Draft camps and individual workouts.

    If a player showed average, inconsistent ability in college but looks GREAT in a pre-Draft workout, why am I going to use a 1st Round pick and HOPE I get myself a late bloomer with star potential?

    Sorry, but I'm taking the proven guy. The guy who's done it on a consistently high level on the court in college.

    Every year, I see players shoot up draft boards based on performances in the above-mentioned Camps and Workouts. Who cares?

    Did the kid perform well on gamedays? That's all I want to know.

    Like I said, maybe I'm in the minority here...but it's how I feel about it.

    Anyone agree/disagree? Why?
     
  2. SuperBeeKay

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    well adam morrison kicked ass in college.

    westbrook came off the bench behind darren collison.

    there's really no sure way to know who pans out, the draft is a crapshoot besides 3-4 players every draft
     
  3. ironariza

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    why not post your research about your college game?
    please
     
  4. ironariza

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    Beacuse no pre-Draft workout we can watch

    so college games are the most important thing in Player Evaluation Process.

    if u can watch, give me some clues or post them @ youtune
     
  5. coachbadlee

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    No research needed for the truth.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    Player evaluation is complicated and you have to take it one player at a time. There are occasions when pre-draft measurements and workouts are a better indicator than game-day performance in college. Many players that are productive in college just don't have a combination of skills & athleticism that will translate to the NBA level. Other guys are late-bloomers who, for various reasons, don't reach their peak until after college. This is especially true of big-men.
     
  7. ironariza

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    and Tjones
     
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    The transition between colleges I can outquick/overpower/outjump everyone to the NBA's holy %$%$ I don't have any advantage over these people (unless you are LBJ) is a stark brutal transition. The evaluation of who can/can't make this transition is crucial to the draft process. Just behold Parson/Morris/KLeonard draft fiasco. The Spurs are the best at it and I would not be surprised if in a decade they were the favorites going into the the playoffs.
     
  9. RealContender

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    What truth?

    This is my opinion. Sure, I guess there are some late-bloomers out there that need these workouts to showcase their skills...but for the most part, I put my faith in the game tape I watch.

    ironariza - are you 11? If you disagree with me, just say so. No need to make stupid, sarcastic comments.
     
  10. Joe Joe

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    Game tape has players playing college system. Pick and Roll isn't done by every team in college, but is a bread and butter NBA play. Pre draft workouts let NBA teams measure certain skills in a controlled environment.

    The guys that go very high, they tend to dominate game tape. The guys that tend to get jumped already have holes in their game tape and pre draft workouts are being used to let the cream rise among 2nd and 3rd tier prospects. Predraft workouts can also be used to screen guys from a top pick if an NBA team finds a flaw in their game that will get exposed. A lot of top picks will limit their pre draft workouts for this reason.
     
  11. MrButtocks

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    Game tape is great for amateurs like us whose opinions don't matter. In fact, it's all we've got. But when your job is on the line you want as much information as possible. The usefulness of game footage depends on the player's role, who the opponent is, what system they're running, and what system you're running. Like Joe Joe pointed out, not every college team runs the pick and roll. And scouting a player's defensive ability is difficult if their team plays zone all the time.

    And last year Kyrie Irving played like twelve games while Enes Kanter played none at all. You've got no choice but to rely heavily on workouts in that case.
     

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