"The Painful Truth: All the World Terrorists are Muslims!"

The Painful Truth: Water, when at Room Temperature, is Suprisingly Wet.

I am very proud of the writer of this piece. It took great courage and I am sure he is being ridiculed by some people. I wish he would have taken it a step further, though. Yes, targeting toddlers is inhuman, but so is targeting unexpecting civilians. I know there will be posts in here from people that will say "it's about time someone from the muslim community said something like this" and it will be followed by peolpe saying, "they have been saying this" or "I have been saying this" but this seems different.

 

Hooray for all of these free-thinking people.

One thing strikes me as odd and this quotation sums it up: ""If all the enemies of Islam united together and decided to harm it ... they wouldn't have ruined and harmed its image as much as the sons of Islam have done by their stupidity, miscalculations, and misunderstanding of the nature of this age," Bahgat wrote."

Why do Muslims feel like they have enemies? Do you as a Christian, Jew, or Buddhist feel as if you have an enemy explicity because of your religion? Isn't that a little paranoid?

 

Ask Israel or Timothy McVeigh.

One of Buddhism's primary tennants is non-violence, so you would have a hard time applying them even though the center of their religion - Tibet - is controlled by China where Buddhists are persecuted for their beliefs.

 

Great article.

Most wars end when one side says they have seen enough.

Hopefully the VAST majority of the Muslim people will put the pressure on the extremists and root them out.

If they turned the terrorists in to authorities it would make a huge difference.

By the way I find it deplorable that others have been blasted for saying this same thing, but now that it comes from the ME it suddenly has credibility.

Some people can't see the forest through the trees.

DD

 

The guys point was that Islam has enemies (almost as if he wants to say natural enemies)-- regardless of nationality or any other condition. McVeigh was just an individual nutjob. Israel is a Jewish state with enemies due to geographic struggles.

This writer's predicate is that Islam has enemies and a substantial amount... "if all the enemies..."

Muslims are all over the world. Why do they perceive that they have enemies just because they are Islamic? Are they still pissed off because of the 15th century or something?

 

In a Buddhist mode, I believe my greatest enemy is myself.

"So instead of loving what you think is peace, love other [people] and love God above all. And instead of hating the people you think are warmakers, hate the appetites and the disorder in your own soul, which are the causes of war. If you love peace, then hate injustice, hate tyranny, hate greed - but hate these things in yourself, not in another."

~ Thomas Merton, from "New Seeds of Contemplation"

 

I think it depends on which path of Buddhism you follow. The Chan Buddhists will fight back if attacked. Also China doesn't persecute these buddhists totally, but they do keep tight reigns on them, and control their freedom.

 

Thank you god, for some one with the balls to come out and say it, and publish it so that it gets to the western world. I sure hope this writer gets proper protection wherever he is...

 

Hopefully he would not NEED protection and one voice becomes a chorus.

DD

 

Sadly the next terrorist activity that happens people will come out again and ask when Muslims will start to denounce terrorists, and if they Islam doesn't promote terrorism why don't they speak out against it more.

I'm happy he wrote it, and maybe a few people will remember it.

But the issue is a two way street. The muslims can denounce it, but other people have to be willing to listen when they do.

 

Wow, this is pretty unexpected. I'm certainly glad he wrote this, and sincerely hope that he doesn't get hurt because of it. ANY denouncement of violence is good for the world. We have enough trouble as it is.

That said, I do believe that some of the blame for these terrorism activities belong to the western nations. And that our government haven't done enough on our parts to help ease violence, instead provoking it at times. Overall, it's just a big mess that hopefully can be settled.

 

Truth is:

There is no war on terrorism.
There is no terrorism for religion.
Human is only killing each other for resources and revengance.

This guy tried to attatch terrorism to a religion, Muslim. So he must be a political tool or a tooled fool.

 

exactly, whenever there is another attack(i sincerely hope there is no more) but people will say that muslims never denounce terrorist actions, they all support it and other BS as such.

 

I think you're missing the point. The point is that the greater Islamic world has continued to deny, evade, justify, and trivialize the connection between Islam and terrorism. His point is that the Islamic world has NOT come out with one voice to denouce in every way terrorism, and if you think they have then you are fooling yourself.

 

They haven't come out with one voice, and I think they should. But the majority of them do denounce terror, and are against it. I think his point is that all Muslims should be upset their religion and it's image is being hijacked by the terrorists.

Have all Jews come out opposing the brutality, oppression, and apartheid like government in Israel? Yet nobody calls on them to denounce the oppression. Instead people try and rationalize it and justify by pointing out the terrorism that goes on.

Just like their is no excuse for terrorism or cause that can jusitfy it, the same goes for oppression of a people.

Have all Christians come out and denounced what happened in the 90's in Eastern Europe when Christians attempted genocide against Muslims? Some have, but did Christians rise up with one voice and denounce it?

We need to have the same standard across the board.

 

Very true. This is the essence of todays religious/cultural conflicts. There are conditions in the world that foster extremists (politicized religion or cults). If these conditions are ignored, sooner or later start to affect other (countries).

The big conundrum is the act of "terrorism." The act itself *is* and should *denounced.* But if the one being attacked completely ignores the reasons for the attack in the first place. They will foster more terrorist attacks. Sure, you can fight it forever. Do you want that? Terrorist have roots in peoples or countries that are being oppressed AND ignored (by one group or another; or goverment over their people). We can all agree that the *terrorist* act itself is wrong. But so it the oppression. And if one ignores (or brushes it aside) that oppression, they will be more terrorist.

Freedom fighter or Terrorist? Round and round we go... Sprinkle a little religion to it, and it just makes things more complex. The title "All the World Terrorists are Muslims" was probably picked for inflammatory reasons. Who knows? It should have been changed to "Many..." verses "All..." Nevertheless, stigmatizing and demonizing from one side doesn't really help. It will only create more anger (justly or unjustly). It's just not a good idea to use the word "all." Words carry a lot of power. Be careful.

 

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It is good that a few high profile Muslims are denouncing terrorism, and it is not the first time. The thing is, that isn't enough. We need a vast majority of Muslims to say, "Enough is enough." When they start turning in the Al-qaida, Hamas, Chechan rebals, et al in their communities, stop marching in support of these organizations, and stop giving them money, that will be the end of terrorism. Its nice that Abdulrahman al-Rashed points the finger at his fellow Muslims, but for every high profile leader like him, there is a Muqtada al-Sadr.

 

Well, as the article points out many Muslims make excuses and justifications for terrorists. You do the same thing when you say 'well why aren't we condeming Israel?'

This is completely irrelevant. When one asks 'should we condemn these terrorists?' if your response is 'only if we condemn Israel,' then you are not answering the question. One is not dependent on the other.

And just as the terrorists link the two, you do as well. What Israel does is not relevant to whether or not blowing up the WTC was justified, or whether or not killing Russian kids is justified. Its a red herring to distract focus from the question of what is happening with Islam. You are doing exactly what the article is pointing out.

Well, yes. It was christians in the West that bombed Serbia, that intervened to STOP THE GENOCIDE. Not only did they rise up and condemn what was going on but they/we put the blood of our own sons on the line to stop the massacre of Muslims. Where has that happened in the reverse roles?

What you are doing is EXACTLY the problem. Qualifiers and caveats are NOT helpful, but merely create room for Muslims to justify further terrorism. A referendum on Israeli action is not only unnecessary to conclude this action was unjustifiable, its counterproductive.