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The Obama/Oprah ticket

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  1. Another Brother

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    http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117968904.html?categoryid=2526&cs=1

    Will Oprah's approval help Obama?
    Endorsements often come with limitations
    By TED JOHNSON
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    Oprah Winfrey is sure to help Barack Obama bring in more donors, but it remains to be seen whether she can bring in actual votes.

    As high-profile as her seal of approval is, in practice celebrity endorsements come with limitations.

    "As far as actual votes, my experience is these endorsements don't mean much," says political and fund-raising consultant Noah Mamet. "People don't like being told who to vote for, by anyone.

    Last month, Steven Spielberg endorsed Hillary Clinton, surely giving her Hollywood campaign some momentum. But it's doubtful his nod will inspire middle America to vote for her, and the same may even go for Hollywood. After all, his DreamWorks partners, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen, are still for Obama.

    Spielberg's nod has yet to lead to a steady stream of industry figures pledging to support Clinton -- and only Clinton.

    Many donors are still on the fence, giving to multiple candidates.

    "Where endorsements do have an impact is that they are part of the 'first primary,' in a sense," says John Emerson, one of Clinton's key California backers and chairman of the L.A. Music Center. "It creates a sense of 'Wow, she's got momentum. She's doing well. Maybe I should get on this bandwagon as well.' "

    When Spielberg agreed in January to co-host a fund-raiser for Obama along with Katzenberg and Geffen, he apparently had no idea of the waves it would generate.

    There were reports Spielberg caught flak from the Clintons for doing the event. But Spielberg's reps say that there were no high-pressure phone calls and the director was very clear back then that he was taking his time to endorse anyone. But Spielberg's reps deny this and note that the director was very clear back then that he was taking his time to endorse anyone. With his longtime ties to the Clinton, his co-sponsorship of the Obama fund-raiser was likely a favor to Geffen.

    Obama backers now argue that it was all but a given that Spielberg would endorse Clinton; it was just a matter of time.

    "Steven Spielberg has been a longtime friend of the Clintons," says Lara Bergthold, a political consultant for Norman Lear (Bergthold and Lear are as yet uncommitted). "It would have been earth-shattering for him not to endorse her."

    Still, there is a certain cachet that comes when celebs and candidates go hand in hand.

    Already this year, John Edwards was on the trail with Danny Glover. Rudy Giuliani's opening act at fund-raisers has been comedian Dennis Miller. Chris Dodd reaped a windfall of attention when singer Paul Simon campaigned with him through Iowa, with the singer dutifully signing autographs and the candidate quipping, "My name is Art Garfunkel."

    Winfrey's nodis on an entirely different level, though, given her status in American popular culture. But that doesn't mean her magic touch for books will do the same for political aspirants.

    "Just saying that she supports Obama and raising some money for him may be of some value, but if she were willing to really campaign for him, it might make a big difference, especially getting out black voters," says Alex Jones, director of the Joan Shorenstein Center on the Press, Politics and Public Policy at Harvard U.

    "I can't imagine many endorsements that would have more potential value, but then I don't put too much stock in endorsements -- including those in newspapers. My guess is that their power is usually to reinforce a choice already made, but that they don't change minds."
     
  2. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

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    Actually I would be less likely to vote for him if Oprah is plugging the guy.
     
  3. rhino17

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    Me too. I wasnt planning on him in the first place, but with Oprah's support, there is even a less likely chance that he get smy vote.
     
  4. Dubious

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    I really really wanted to get on the Obama train but he's been looking a little shaky during the past debates, Not quite the cool confident master orator he looked in his scripted texts. I really thought he was gong chew these people up.

    That being said I agree that if Oprah would actually get out on the campaign trail and stump for Obama; presenting a comprehensible issue based case, I think it would have a huge impact on the female middle class. Possibly effecting the total vote count more than just about any other celebrity for any candidate you could think of. (Maybe Bill Clinton? Maybe Colin Powell?)
     
  5. KaiSeR SoZe

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    I'm leaning towards Kucinich..

    i dont know what his chances are for the nom though
     
  6. deepblue

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    ZERO

    (added so the message is at least 5 characters)
     
  7. Invisible Fan

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    If Sean P Diddy Combs told me to vote Obama, then I would die.
     
  8. Another Brother

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    He's endorsing Biden. ;)
     
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    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Obama is becoming more of a joke by the day.
     
  11. Dubious

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    There, fixed that for you.

    But I don't disagree that he is losing his aura. What is it about Presidential candidates that makes them lose sight of their strenghts and shoot their mouths off on some illogical tangent. (to Bidenize?)

    I'd like to enter the first part of the 21st century without someone named Bush or Clinton in the White House. We are supposed to be a democratic nation that elects the best leaders not competing royal families.
     
  12. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Well, I think about my average day sometimes. Then I think about a day where I have, say, 7 meetings at work (rare, but it happens). By the 7th meeting, I am very, very happy that nobody is recording my off-the-cuff response to difficult questions.

    So, I'm imagining someone campaigning in the modern era, all day every day, with every moment being recorded in some digital format or another. Good god -- the question is not why do people say dumb things, but why would we expect anything other than bland, simple, rehearsed, repetitive, cautious messages from these people.

    Just one way of looking at it, I guess.
     
  13. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Funny you should mention Biden. The guy will never be President, but despite his warts, he frequently impresses me the most at these "debates."



    D&D. Impeach Bush and Cheney.
     
  14. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    and then when the candidates give bland boring responses, we complain about that
     

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