The Numbers on Steve's D so far this season

5.2:3.6

Assist to TO ratio. He needs to worry about that more than getting burned by 1 out of 12 players.

 

The real problem has to be his turnover:

Ranks #6 in the NBA in Total Turnovers(47.0)
Ranks #5 in the NBA in Turnovers Per Game(3.62)

Before this game, he had 5.2 Ast per game.

The ast / TO ratio is still not good for a PG.

 

And Steve's career rocket's numbers.
Points/Assists/rebounds

99-00 18.0/6.6/5.3 .445 fg% .345 3pt.%

00-01 19.9/6.5/6.9 .451fg% .396 3pt% his best year

01-02 21.6/6.4/7.0 .417fg% .325 3pt% Headache year

02-03 21.0/6.2/6.2 .435fg% .354 3pt%

03-04 18.5/5.2/5.9 .426fg% .271 3pt%

Steve has never looked worse. Maybe a structured system is too hard for him to play in? He needs freedom to unleash his 'mad skillz'.

 

I'd like to see Stevie's numbers up there beside his opponents. Including turnovers.

The only explanation I can come up with for Stevie's D tonight is he must've been tired from the game Monday. Lopez and Mo Williams were pretty much going wherever they wanted to tonight. Migraine maybe? They sure looked like the vets and Stevie sure looked like the rookie.

 

It's time to step up Stevie. I'm counting on you.

 

There was this study I saw once about conditioned responses. They went up to people in the street, and made accurate statements about Hitler, and asked if people agreed, such as " It is generally agreed that Hitler was a very effective publis speaker." Or " Did you know that Hitler was decorated for bravery in the First World War?", etc. Invariably, despite having nothing to say contradicting these statements, people would either agree and add " But he was a monster." or something similar, or just say the monster bit and skip the question entirely. Nothing in the question touched on atrocities, yet people were incapable of addressing the questions about Hitler without immediately bringing up negative assosciations.


Just a thought.

 

I love you to death MacBeth, but I don't see the connection.

And I'm German..

 

Smeg raises a point that Steve's defense might be improving. Rather than discuss that, look at the next 5 or so responses.

 

Smeg raises the point on D, and the pot is raised to include other aspects of his game. Big deal.

There was no trade demands, no hating in this short thread. No bickering between each other.
What a lame thread.

 

What do you mean no bickering. MacBeth is bickering.

 

I agree that Francis' D is not as horrible as advertised. His offense, on the other hand, is not good under JVG, so far.

 

Looks to me like all the quality PG's he faced did about their average with the exception of Marbury.

One question, has Steve's D improved, or is it having Yao and Cato at the rim helped him, like it did Kenny Smith?

Steve is an average defender at best, he follows the ball with his head, and loses his man far too often.

Steve is highly overated IMHO.

DD

 

I think it has improved since last season. I don't know...it's gotten better but still...when he gets frustrated and starts to complain to the refs and can't get anything right..he just starts turning the ball over and doing stupid mistakes. Then he forgets about guarding his guy...maybe coach told him to leave Lopez open. If so..that was a mistake. Francis did let Lopez drive right past him..which is quite sad. When he is focused, he can play defense. But too often..he gets distracted and starts going back to old ways! boneheaded...everybody has a career game against the rockets..

 

steve is having his worst year as a pro. his points, rebs, asts, fg% are all career lows or very close to it.

i think we all expected his points and rebs to go down with yao emerging as a scorer, and cato in the line-up playing well. but how his ast and fg% go down with that happening?

my point is....we are winning so who cares?

 

Thank you forum policeman.

 

Steve's "D" is perfectly fine! Most of those PG's got their points when Mooch was guarding them.

Prime example: The Suns game. The first half, Marbury goes off for 20+, most while Mooch is trying to guard him. Second half, Mooch plays less than a minute, and Steve plays the whole half; Marbury is shut down. The points he does get in that quarter all happen on "gimmie" shots at the end of the game.

Steve is fine, I mean, we can't expect him to shut down all his opponants. He is trying to run a new system under a new coach, he is trying to do his best to give his all on defense. What we need is a capable back up that knows how to play defense and can hit the open shot. That's why I'm dissapointed that the Rockets didn't go after Armstrong. I think he would have been an amazing upgrade over Mooch.

 

I remember seeing this survey. Jay Leno did it once on his Jay-Walking routine.

 

Heil Volkswagon!

 

Okay, I think I get your point now. Steve is actually a Nazi. Interesting theory.