The future of America with the Tea Party in control

What basso and the Tea Party people want is whatever the Republicans tell them to want. It's really not any more complicated than that.

 

Okay so where is the Tea Party angle in all of this?

Charles Grassley a Republican no less, is asking for transparency from the corporation in question here. How does that implicate the Tea Party in this story? After all, there isn't a single mention of the term 'tea party' anywhere in that article.

Please do elaborate.

 

And the Brady group wants to ban all guns. Neither will happen but these groups are supported because most people recognize these groups as radicals that represent some common feelings nationwide.

Tea Party - spending is out of control and the sooner we control it the less we will have to raise taxes to fix it

Brady group - gun violence is out of control in this country and we need to fix it.

these are some pretty common themes with these groups that most moderates agree with.

also I think you are missing the bigger picture because the budget of the FDA is around .5% of the stimulus package cost. I don't think getting rid of the FDA is the Tea Parties main focus.

 

I've googled "Tea Party FDA" and after searching several links cannot find a hint of the Tea Party's ambition to dismantle the FDA. Can you provide a link, any link, to such a story? Blogs don't count.

I've read several tea party declarations and while they call for smaller government, I haven't seen dismantling of the FDA as one of the suggestions.

 

I think he's referring to Ron Paul's generalized anti-bureaucracy sentiment. Ya know, eliminate the FBI, diplomacy, etc...

 

I gotta agree with Giddyup here. I think this thread title is pretty misleading.

 

Actually not quite. There are many Republicans who have expressed unease about the Tea Party and many view the Tea Party as a two edged sword. They bring a lot of energy to the party in need of energy but at the same time many of the Tea Partier's views and statements cause problems for the Republican Party as a whole.

I still don't think it is clear what the the Tea Party overall wants. In general it is less government, less regulation and less taxes but there are several Tea Partiers, including here on CF.net, who have called for maintaining things like Medicare and are have called for more much more government regulation in terms of things like illegal immigration. The most that I think can be definitively said about the Tea Party is that its about anger.

 

I think you are mistaking the Tea Party with Libertarians. The two overlap but are not exactly the same. There have been plenty of Tea Partiers who have said they support even want more regulation. I recall when the Deep Water Horizon exploded there were a few Tea Partiers here who talked about wanting more regulation on off shore drilling.

The Tea Party isn't ideologically consistent in its views. Thats not necessarily a bad thing but I don't think we draw such broad inferences about them.

 

Will someone here who is a defender of Tea Partiers or is one of them please put some meat on the bones and tell us all what the movement wants? Don't waste our time and say "less government, less regulation, less spending", "run government like a business", blah blah blather. I want to know some specific, bold-stroke ideas favored by most/many in the movement. If you like, feel free to also debunk ideas that are attributed to the Tea Party.

For the record, I'm an independent that despises both major parties to the core. Another thing I despise are politicians and so-called movements that only speak in generalities. Saying "no" to everything is just a tactic to play on ignorance & emotions to grow a power-base.

Please lay it out for me on Social Security, Medicare, Afghanistan, defense spending, farm subsidies, gay marriage, abortion, climate change, energy policy, Israel, Iran, drug legalization, etc, etc. I'm well aware there is no definite stand on many of these issues but there should be on many of them.

Thanks for the education.

 

The Tea Party actually did put out a platform of sorts a few months called "The Contract from America", it was posted and discussed here on CF.net. I'm having some trouble with search right now but if someone else doesn't find the thread I will try to find it later.

That said it seemed pretty half-baked to me.

 

I want some current, specific ideas that Tea Partiers are calling for. They need to walk the plank, take some stands and have explainable plans of action that can be picked apart and debated.

Here is one idea they may be in favor of that I support: Gradually increasing the age to collect on S.S.

 

Instead of this why not just increase the salary limit that SS is currently calculated on? Right now you only pay 6.2% up to $106,800. Something like 75-85% of the country don't make that, so as a % of income they are taxed higher than the "rich".

 

Agreed. A combination of this and slowly raising the age.

But to the subject at hand, still waiting on specifics from Tea Partiers.

 

It seems like they want a Bush redux and without the black guy.

Keep it simple. Keep it stupid. And lay off the taxes.

 

The Tea Party is not an uneducated group of people, they're middle class americans who want the goverment to be accountable for its actions. Where in the hell did you get your facts that the Tea Party is a group of uneducated people. I'd like to know your statistical source. If you can provide one, I'd greatly appreciate it. It sounds to me that you're just saying this load of crap w/o any proof. They'd like to see taxes stay low, reduce federal spending and empower local goverments to handle their own affairs. I must agree that inherently, the Tea Party favors a small federal government based on a low tax and low spending model. I believe the Tea Party stands behind discretion of the use of our tax dollars, something the Obama administration has clearly showed a lack thereof. Your argument that the Tea Party wants to get rid of minorities is confusing to say the least. Are you saying that by enforcing the borders, they're getting rid of the blacks, asians, indians and every other non-white ethnicity. As an american from mexican roots, I applaud Arizona in their efforts to take their state back. The illegal population is sucking the state dry of all social services. You need to pay to play, and none of these illegals pay their fair share of taxes, rather, they don't pay any taxes and use all of the social services. How is that fair to rest of folks who play by rules, like my mom and dad? I say the hell with them and send them back until they are ready to play by the rules that you and I and every other hard working american has to.

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