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The debate delay - could this be the real reason?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by DaDakota, Sep 25, 2008.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Ok, McCain rushes to Washington to participate and understand the dire situation that Congress is dealing with on the proposed Bailout/rescue bill.

    That is completely understandable, a guy who might be President should go and understand or at least be in touch, Obama is now going too....

    But this whole, delay the debate thing, makes no sense...unless......

    It is not about McCain at all, but about Palin, their campaign has seen her numbers plummet and seen her mumble bumble and stumble through 2 of the 3 softball interviews, they know she is just not ready.

    So, McCain proposes they move the debate back one week and take over the VP debate's slot....not because he is worried about the economy, oh no, but because he knows that Palin is not even close to ready to debate.

    Think about it, there is no reason to not have a debate on foreign policy, both McCain and Obama are ready for that with well established positions, the American public is anxious to see which one of them handles themselves better and let the issues decide.

    But, they can NOT let Palin do a debate, they just can't that would be campaign suicide.....they won't even let her answer questions from the journalists traveling with her.....

    And did you see the Pakastani Prime minister? All he basically said was..."Duh...you sure are pretty"

    THAT IS IT !!! The McCain campaign knows that the longer they can hold on to the Palin is pretty wagon the better chance they have of winning because the more she opens her mouth and shows she is not even remotely ready to be a VP, the worse it gets for them.

    My theory......all this is a smokescreen to hide Palin even more.....they know....she can not debate next Friday and will do EVERYTHING they can to avoid it.....

    At least that is how I read these tea leaves.

    DD
     
  2. A_3PO

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    Quite possible, but I don't think it's going to work. I doubt the debate commission or the Obama camp will allow Palin's debate with Biden to be moved.
     
  3. Mulder

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    That is what I was thinking as well when the language said that the VP debates would be postponed to an "undetermined date".

    Yeah right. You mean "never".

    Sheesh.
     
  4. B-Bob

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    This idea was Olberman's take when he appeared (as a last-minute sub) on Letterman last night. Wow, but that was a bizarre show. Dave was really angry about the whole thing.
     
  5. Bullard4Life

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    DD, I think this is definitely part of it. But the call for ceasing all campaign activities goes above and beyond the debate issues (what does running ads have to do with McCain being in Washington?), I think it's also an attempt to renew the 'country first' line of campaigning. I think the two work in concert to try and change the story in the news cycle because right now McCain is just getting hammered by ads and by the stories and the dominant story in the media about Palin is her star is falling.
     
  6. Smokey

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    Is McCain going to ask to delay the election?

    If McCain doesn't show up, Obama gets a free hour on television. I hope the GOP gets penalized for their stall tactics.
     
  7. basso

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    Or his country called at 3am, and McCain picked up the phone.

    [rquoter]BOB SCHIEFFER: I am told, Maggie, that the way McCain got involved in this in the first place, the Treasury Secretary was briefing Republicans in the House yesterday, the Republican conference, asked how many were ready to support the bailout plan. Only four of them held up their hands. Paulson then called, according to my sources, Senator Lindsey Graham, who is very close to John McCain, and told him: you've got to get the people in the McCain campaign, you've got to convince John McCain to give these Republicans some political cover. If you don't do that, this whole bailout plan is going to fail. So that's how, McCain, apparently, became involved.[/rquoter]
     
  8. Major

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    From this, it sounds more like his party called him to help play politics. If he was actually trying to help put together a plan, he would have come on Monday, instead of today, when the final bill is basically already done.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    This is not what this thread is about Basso.....it is about the asking for the delay in debates....

    No one is talking about McCain or Obama getting involved in the process, I think we all agree that is a good thing.....

    This is about why they are using this as a smokescreen to try to delay Palin's meltdown even further.

    Nice try though.

    DD
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    Any delay in the debates is a win for Republicans at this point.

    Not surprising they would push for it.

    Make no mistake about it, everything that happens is directly related to that little thing going down in November.
     
  11. Rocketball

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    Dakota,

    Is business that slow for you?

    It seems lately that all you have done is come up with crazy conspiracy theories.

    First it was Carl Landry - Charlotte - Houston one, now this one, what's next?

    It might be time for you to take a timeout from the BBS, regroup, get your mind straight and clear (cause your losing it quickly), and start over.

    RB
     
  12. BigBenito

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    That's right, attack the messenger and ignore the post. Bravo, good sir.




    I honestly don't think it was so much about debates... that is just a nice bonus. McCain had to shake up the campaign/talking heads in any way possible to keep them from continuing to pile on his lies///palin's incompetence.

    Will it work? I hope not, for the sake of future elections.

    This is 100% political. McCain is the least active Senator this year; he even skips votes while he's in DC.
     
  13. tested911

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    Well from Senator Reid it sounds like he is postponing because of his failing campaign ( Strong words and probably poor choice for political reason ).

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    Ignore.............what are you talking about???????????

    I clearly said that this is another one of DD crazy conspiracy theories, obviously not agreeing with it.........
     
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    You ignored it because you didn't address the substance of his claim. Just calling it a conspiracy theory and then intimating that he's not firing on all cylinders in the office is not a response to his argument, it's an ad hominem attack on him. If you disagree, explain why you do, don't call him crazy.
     
  18. Rocketball

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    Calm down...............I did not attack him, DD knows that (friendly banter).

    I just thought it was funny how he had 2 of these type of suggestions (one in the GARM and one here), both of which I fell might be a tad far fetched (my opinion).

    If DD has a problem with it, he would let me know and I would apologize to him, but at no level was I attacking him...........

    As far as reason: I don't think McCain is doing it to hide or postpone the VP debate (simple as that), as I am not convinced Palin will do a bad job against Biden. However, I say that reluctantly to DD's point, because she wasn't strong in one of the two interviews (I don't count Hannity's interview), so the jury is still out.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    I am just speculating, no harm done.

    I follow the politics of situations, and this is what it looks like to me.

    The Landry one was purely for fun.....but you may be right, I may be crazy, but I just may be the lunatic your looking for.....

    ;)

    DD
     
  20. Bullard4Life

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    I've also read that the ability to 'control expectations' can be critical going into debates. Bush benefited from low expectations in his debates, while Gore and Kerry suffered from high ones. Does all this suspensions nonsense allow McCain to try to spin that he was too occupied with the financial crisis to worry about a political debate?
     

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