This pretty much sums up why I dislike the Clintons, specifically Bill. They are fake. They morph into whoever they "need" to be based on the circumstances at hand. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22875276/ Clinton's camp seeks gentler role for Bill Campaign tries to shift ex-president's disposition after Obama's latest win Democrats inside and outside the Clinton campaign on Sunday debated and in some cases bemoaned the degree to which former President Bill Clinton ’s criticism of Senator Barack Obama last week had inflicted lasting damage on his wife’s presidential candidacy. “I think his harsh style hurt Senator Clinton — it polarized the campaign and polarized the electorate, and it also made it harder for Senator Clinton’s positive message to break through,” said Celinda Lake, a Democratic strategist and pollster who is not affiliated with any of the candidates. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton ’s campaign team, seeking to readjust after her lopsided defeat in South Carolina and amid a sense among many Democrats that Mr. Clinton had injected himself clumsily into the race, will try to shift the former president back into the sunnier, supportive-spouse role that he played before Mrs. Clinton’s loss in the Iowa caucuses, Clinton advisers said. But Democrats said it was not clear whether the effects of Mr. Clinton’s high profile could be brushed away by having him modulate his campaign style. They said Mr. Clinton had upset some of the central themes of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, including her appeal to women and her assertions that her time in the White House during the 1990s amounted to vital experience rather than a link to a presidency defined as much by scandal and partisan divisions as by its successes on fronts like the economy. Despite Mrs. Clinton’s months-long efforts to build a base of support among women, Clinton advisers said they were concerned that her husband’s recent prominence may have dampened her appeal as a strong female leader. Some advisers said they feared as much after Mr. Obama won 54 percent of the vote from women in South Carolina, including 22 percent of white women and 78 percent of black women, according to polls.
Say what you will about the Clintons. They are liars, fakes, hypocrites, etc. (and they are all that), but they are master politicians and they know how to get themselves elected. What Bill said in the last couple of weeks is going to hurt Obama...race is an issue in America and Bill has brought the topic up to the front. If race remains the hot topic of this race, Obama will lose.
Hillary might win. It would still be a surprise if she didn't. She started off with all the establishment support and overwhelming leads in every poll, nationally or statewide, including Iowa where she lost badly, New Hampshire where she barely squeaked out a win and South Carolina where she got slaughtered. These memes about Clinton knowing how to win and Obama being untested in real elections (or America not being ready to vote for him) are old and, currently, outdated thinking. If Hillary is such a great politician, if she is so good at winning, why has she hemmoraged support in every single race this cycle? Sure, she's made comebacks in some instances, but she went from inevitable -- even running a general election campaign rather than a primary one and telling an interviewer it wasn't even a possibility she'd lose -- to a basic tie with Obama. And if Obama wasn't tested before, he has been now. And he has passed, thus far, with flying colors. Meanwhile, if America's not ready for Obama, why do they keep voting for him?
why are they fake? it's all opinion. personally, i think obama is fake as well. and the whole thing about change, is overrated. i mean, what the hell, do you all think that if clinton got voted in, she is going back in time to stone age?
The opposite of change is not a reversion to the stone age. The opposite of change is constancy or stability.
In every state so far the turnout has broken all previous records. People are coming out en mass to vote for Obama. That fact is indisputable
You seem to credit those record turnouts all to Mr. Obama. Funny. If those ppl were indeed all "inspired" by him and came out to vote for him, the race should have been over at this point.
hm... i would think, consistency and stability is a good thing. anyhow. i don't think obama knows what he is doing. it maybe a change for the WORSE.
Duh. Hillary looks a lot smaller than she did before Iowa. Bill's very large shadow in the campaign is a daily reminder she is where she is only because of his coattails. In fair weather, she is Hillary Rodham Clinton. When the going gets tough, she becomes Bill Clinton's wife.
You have a point. I guess you can also say that beating the hell out of George Bush and the republicans is bringing out a lot of people too.
All politicians are fake, more or less. What matters is the capability, but unfortunately it is hard to tell. What you can hear is all blank promises and boring speeches, including Obama's.
Why? Clinton started ahead in the polls, name recognition, national credibility, and on-the-ground infrastructure from the days of Bill Clinton. The demographics that are coming out in huge numbers are moderates and young voters - the two groups Obama most appeals to. The new voters are letting him overcome the challenges he was up against - they won't lead him to a blowout. He NEEDED them to have a chance (see Howard Dean for what happens if you rely on them and don't them). The anger factor already existed in 2004 - it's not newfound anger that's bringing people out. To be fair, Hillary brings her share of people out as well w/ the woman factor, and Edwards does also with his poverty theme. But neither does so as much as Obama. He consistently wins the "first time voter" vote.
Bill is really showing his ass to a community that has supported him so vehemently through the years. The Clintons are hurting the Democratic party, especially if McCain wins the Republician nomination. McCain is liberal enough to be the candidate who dems vote for to punish the Clintons for their treatment of Obama. They're walking a thin line. If team Obama was smart they would invest some effort into exposing who Gennifer Flowers or Monica Lewenski is supporting. Win or lose, to get those names back in the news would certainly stir up the shat. Where the hell is Whitewater? Who lied under oath while President? If Hillary wants to assume so much responsibility for what happened during the Clinton administration then let's get it ALL out there.
I need SPECIFICS, way more specifics from Obama to decide if he is CAPABLE to deliver the "changes" he claim to make. Right now, he sounds more like a salesman speaking in a "get motivated" seminar and trying to convince everyone to buy his DVD.
But Obama is suppose to be above all that, he is the new clean, change the face of Washington candidate. If he drags all the old Clinton mud out, then he'd be no different than her.
I just can't believe this is the same bill clinton. He didn't run his own campaign like this in 92 from what I remember. he was a lot nicer guy. I guess he figures what worked for him can't work for hillary because hillary isn't nearly as likable as he is. but still, i never knew he could be so vicious.
