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The Cat, it's final, you owe me $20.

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Kim, May 15, 2002.

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  1. Kim

    Kim Member

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    I accept check or money order or paypal. Please email me by clicking on the profile and clicking the email button and I will send you the information.

    After the offseason, we can wager again about how bad the Spurs will perform. :)
     
  2. Dr of Dunk

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    The Cat will be here to let you know how the Spurs didn't lose. Watch. :D
     
  3. Rocketability

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    I guess the Spurs got robbed by the refs ... again (jk) :D
     
  4. Timing

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    The Cat is having a rough few months. :D
     
  5. TheFreak

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    Cat, did you not include any provisions for injury? Robinson being out should have nullified the bet.
     
  6. Major

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    Cat, did you not include any provisions for injury? Robinson being out should have nullified the bet.

    Maybe unforeseeable injuries, but Robinson being out is not a surprise. :) Not that he made a difference when healthy....
     
  7. verse

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    maybe you should win $40 since shaq played hurt. or maybe you should win $0 since kobe had bruce "kobe stopper" bwen on him.


    "kobe stopper"

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!


    i guess losing derek anderson REALLY DID hurt!
     
  8. TheFreak

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    You included a smiley, so I don't know if you were serious....but Robinson has only missed 18 games in the past 5 years...not sure how you can say his injury should have been expected.
     
  9. Major

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    You included a smiley, so I don't know if you were serious....but Robinson has only missed 18 games in the past 5 years...not sure how you can say his injury should have been expected.

    He may play, but he has serious back issues half the time. He's only been able to go about 30 minutes a game for the last 4 or 5 years or so. In this series, he played in 3 out of 5 games. Spurs were 0-3 with him, 1-1 without him. Shaq's injuries affected the series more than Robinson, in my opinion.
     
  10. The Cat

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    I complained about the refs treating the Spurs unfairly vs. LA in one game out of nine, and I apologized for doing so. Get over it.

    Also, verse, I don't know what series you watched, but Bruce Bowen absolutely exceeded all expectations I had for him. No one said that he could stop Kobe. All we said is that he could force him into some more difficult shots, and he did that better than I could've ever imagined. Kobe got his points, but he always will. But the Spurs forced him to shoot very contested shots, a lower than normal percentage, and rarely had to double on him so there were less three point opportunities. On the offensive end, Bowen was actually a plus, as he was about the only one who hit some of his open shots in the fourth quarter.

    Kobe may have had his way in the fourth quarter, but he seldom did in quarters one through three. The problem is that the Spurs offense couldn't hold the lead they built, and that has nothing to do with Bowen's defense.

    Freak: Usually, in bets, injury provisions are assumed, but apparently that's not the case here. For example, in my bet with ZRB on the Seattle series, he said that he wouldn't hold me to the bet if the Spurs lost on account of Duncan being gone. Obviously the Spurs weren't near 100% in this series, but it's just $20, so I don't care. I'll email you this afternoon, Kim.
     
  11. TheFreak

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    30 minutes a game without being winded/rusty would've been a huge help this series for SA, compared to missing two games and barely playing in the others. Shaq may have been 'injured', but he at least played every game at about 40 minutes a game, quite a bit more than he played during the season. The reason Robinson's so important is because in addition to being their 2nd-best player, he minimizes the time Duncan has to guard Shaq, thus increasing Duncan's effectiveness on both ends. So they went 1-1 without him...maybe Duncan was so worn out from having to do everything AND be pounded on by Shaq, that it affected him in the other 3 games. But anyway, it's obvious Robinson's an important part of what they do, I'm just saying that it would suck to lose a bet when the team I bet on ended up not being at full strength.
     
  12. Desert Scar

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    I agree with the Cat, Bowen was better than I expected as well. He wasn't as good as a spot up shooter as some others expected;) but that is neither here nor there.

    Cat buddy, I had been trying to get you to focus on your Laker strong dislike on board with the Kings ever since the Bibby and DA deals went down--because I knew the Kings were the most legit threat. Take hope, the Lakers may go down just yet. I just hope the Nets can pull a miracle and knock off those punk Kings.
     
  13. TheFreak

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    Scar, the Kings are only a threat right now because the Mavs couldn't win the division. Had they done that, it would be SA and LA in the conference finals. :)
     
  14. R0ckets03

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    and what would be the point of that? It would still be LA progressing to the next round.
     
  15. Desert Scar

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    In your wet dreams:D , there is a reason Sac got 60 wins despite losing their best player for many games and other team did(consider the Spurs had Duncan every game and could only come in 3rd in the West). I admit the Lakers might be able to turn it up a notch and beat them, but no way could have the Spurs
     
  16. TheFreak

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    Scar, I guess we'll find out soon whether or not Sacramento winning 61 games in the regular season means anything.
     
  17. Smokey

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    I don't know how you guys do bets even among friends but injuries (other events such as family tragedy, arrests, accidents, etc.) to players are just part of the risk of betting. Not to sound cruel, but I know my friends would hold me to my bets and I'd do the same to them.
     
  18. verse

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    better than expected?


    how many times did i hear how bwen was a positive for the spurs against kobe?
    how many times did i hear san antonio sportscasters say that bwen is the kobe stopper?
    hell, the front page of the sa express sports section (before the series) had "the kobe stopper" on it.

    how many times did MrSpur say "I didn't know you had to have an allstar at every position" only to have me say "you have to have a THREAT at every position"? oh...but i was wrong, right?

    b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t.

    the series proved me right. kobe - against the spurs and the vaunted "kobe stopper", the self-proclaimed "kobe botherer", did exactly what he has done to every other team in the nba - DOMINATE tough shots??? who cares?? bottom line is that he torched the spurs.

    as i said before, the only answer to stopping kobe is to have someone that can score on the other end. someone that can make kobe play defense. what did bruce bwen do?

    GAME 1:

    kobe: 20 pts
    bwen: 7

    GAME 2:

    kobe: 26 pts
    bwen: 13

    GAME 3:

    kobe: 31 pts
    bwen: 8

    GAME 4:

    kobe: 28 pts
    bwen: 8

    GAME 5:

    kobe: 26 pts
    bwen: 10


    KOBE'S AVERAGE FOR THE SERIES: 26.2ppg
    KOBE'S AVERAGE FOR THE SEASON: 25.2ppg

    did bwen really do a good job? no. the spurs would have been much better off with a true 2 guard that could penetrate, instead of parking his sorry ass around the 3 point line, chucking up bricks (ferry, porter, daniels, et al). oh wait, that would have been DA. but, hey, bwen was supposed to be an upgrade, right? b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t.

    admit it...kobe handed the spurs asses to them, bruce bwen did absolutely nothing to slow kobe down...especially in the 4th quarters where the spurs were waxed. who led that charge? kobe. where was the stopper???? getting his ass handed to him along with his teammates.

    no more bullsh*t. the proof's in the pudding.
     
  19. grummett

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    Kobe did nothing for three quarters, but had his way in the fourth.

    Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?
     
  20. TheFreak

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    verse, while you're patting yourself on the back, care to tell us what you were right about?

    Let's see, last year, the Spurs win 58 games and get swept by the Lakers. This year, they win 58 games, and win 1 game from the Lakers, although every game was winnable, unlike the year before. The Spurs were clearly closer to LA this year than they were last year. So what is it that you were right about?

    I know, I know, Spurs suck...blah, blah, blah.

    It's funny that you never came around to tell anyone how right you were after you said in February: "february and march are TOUGH schedule months for the spurs. they may not even make the playoffs. seriously." You then went on to say how they would go 12-15 over Feb and March, and how one injury would send them on a free fall out of the playoffs, yadda, yadda, yadda. Seems like you were pretty quiet after those comments...until NOW. What is it that you were so right about?
     

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