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The case for trading for Amare Stoudemire

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by NBA Law, Jun 7, 2009.

  1. NBA Law

    NBA Law Member

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    Robert Sarver is in financial trouble and has an aging basketball squad with a bloated payroll that must be cut. There have been major doubts about Stoudamire being the centerpiece for their future and rumors that Sarver was listening to offers for Amare this year.

    For the Rockets, he could be the perfect fit.

    Offensively:

    He will be a great offensive compliment to Yao on the frontline. He is an excellent midrange jumper to take advantage of doubles on Yao in the post, much like Scola did so well this year. Though, unlike with Scola or Landry in the lineup, defenses will be less inclined to front Yao and aggressively double him as Amare will make them pay. Scola only did this with his midrange shot but he doesn't have the explosiveness of Amare which could lead to many easy layups and dunks. Most importantly for Yao, Amare can play the 5 much more effectively than Scola or Landry, thus giving Yao more time to rest with Chuck at the 4.

    Scola's great in transition but I think Amare is a bit of an upgrade in this area as well.

    Defensively:

    With his athleticism, mobility and size, he can effectively play the Pick and Roll or at least assist Yao when teams try to take advantage of Yao's weak pick and roll defense.

    In the right system, I don't see why he can't play better team defense and be a great rebounder. He's already a good rebounder. His size will provide a better matchup against Gasol with Yao handling Bynum.

    Chemistry:

    This is the biggest potential pitfall as he has a reputation for being selfish. Though, there should not be any ego clashes with Yao or Battier and he can feel secure in being the man.

    What is he worth?

    McGrady's contract would have to be part of the deal for financial relief to Sarver. They will want young talent and will need to fill the 4 and backup pointguard/future starter after Nash retires. So, we'd have to giveup Brooks and Landry or Scola or possibly both.

    In return we would would probably acquire Barbosa (Richardson plays the 2)and probably have to take on Dragic's contract. Also, Brooks will be especially appealing to the Suns as he can extend the career of Nash as a high quality backup.

    So, Lowry would take over the point, Barbosa would start at the 2 or be the 6th man depending on whether we resign Artest and Dragic would be the backup PG. Though, with Amare, I'm not sure we should resign Artest if we get Barbosa in the deal. Artest has trouble keeping up with 2 guards.

    Final Rotation:

    5 - Yao/Amare
    4 - Amare/Chuck
    3 - Battier/Artest
    2 - Artest/Barbosa/Von Wafer
    1 - Lowry/Dragic

    The offensive firepower of this team would be dynamite and we would still reamain an elite defensive team. I think this trade is only possible if T-Mac comes back before the trade deadline and looks decent.

    There is a lot of financial incentive in this trade for the Suns since all of the contracts they will be taking on will expire before 2010 and they will be getting great young players all with well below market contracts.
     
  2. MD_in_Training

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    I don't think Phoenix is in a position to ask for BOTH of our PFs.
     
  3. bbjai

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    He can't really handle not being the man

    what makes you think he can play with Yao AND Artest
     
  4. Tom Bombadillo

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    You think Artest can't play defense against 2-guards, wait until you see Barbosa's god awful defense...


    I would much rather have Richardson and make another side deal for a PG.


    Nice post, though...
     
  5. Strawman

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    No way they get Scola AND Landry.
     
  6. Raven

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    But Amare likes to run, yes? This created issues when the Suns slowed their tempo down, yes? So how would Amare fit with Yao?
     
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    So it's T-Mac, Scola, Landry and Brooks for Amare, Barbosa, and Dragic?

    Wow. Pheonix would do that in a heartbeat.
     
  8. leebigez

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    There are easy reasons. He is better than both our pf's. He demands attention and doesn't need yo to score. He's also young. His injury history is a concern, but non seem stress related.
     
  9. shortfuse3

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    So would Houston. Are u kidding me? Amare is a perennial all-star.

    Barbosa is everything Brooks wants to be.

    Dragic is a solid backup PG.

    I love our PFs but I would trade Scolandry for a perennial all-star in Amare in a FLASH.
     
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    Like the other poster said, Suns are in no position to ask for both our PF's. Amare seems to be leaving one way or another.

    If it's T-Mac Landry and Brooks for Amare and Barbosa, now that's a different story.
     
  13. napalm06

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    With Landry/Scola we're more than set at PF. We have one of the best PF combos in the league, i'd daresay. We shouldn't make a move for a position that we're already fine with - especially for a guy with a mediocre personality.
    I completely disagree. Barbosa is a speed demon with a streaky shot and that's about all.
    Again, not an upgrade over what we have; no need to deal.
    I disagree because I think Scolandry gives us solid depth; we shouldn't trade that solely for an athletic eye-catcher in Stoudemire.
     
  14. larsv8

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    I think other teams have more to offer for Amare than we do.
     
  15. duluth111222

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    You never know. T-Mac Landry Brooks might just be enough. T-Mac gives them cap relief. Landry and Brooks give them young promising talent, assuming they're still high on Brooks. Not to mention if T-Mac can make a comeback next season. Suns may think hard about that.
     
  16. RV6

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    this is a steal for Phoenix, especially with tmac possibly coming back healthy or even at 80%...look at THEIR lineup

    Nash/brooks
    Jrich/barnes
    tmac/hill
    Scola/landry/amundson
    shaq/lopez/swift
     
  17. MD_in_Training

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    Yeah, I would actually take this squad over ours after the trade.
     
  18. fogo11606

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    Scola worth way more than that man. He's easily a 20/10 guy if given the opportunity.

    Nothing in the Phoenix roster interest me.
     
  19. rodmanhust

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    please no AS.
    this is the guy who wanna be lebron and kobe on his team, no way he can play with Yao and Artest
     
  20. leebigez

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    Take the glasses off. Scola is nowhere close to amare. Teams don't even guard scola until he starts scoring some. They always guard amare and they still cant stop him. If scola was a 20/10 guy he wouldve done it by now and woudn't be splitting time with landry.
     

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