long post I believe Morey should get Jefferson instead of Bosh. I have many reasons for this. Some are facts, some are my opinions. I will break it down , I know alot of you are tweeting Bosh and drooling over Bosh and I use to also, but Ive recently changed my mind toward Jefferson. First off, Im aware that Bosh is the better player,.....or is he? Lets look at what the Rockets need . 1.a center to back up Yao, and possibly a starting center if Yao isnt the same 2.keep core intact 3.dont take on unreasonable contracts that prevent future deals 4.possible upgrade at pf, a upgrade defensively 4/5 Bosh: positives: gives you a upgrade at pf. blocks about 1 bpg and draws about 8 ft per game. is about 5-6 years younger than scola.would make the starting lineup (if yao is healthy big IF) amazing negatives:you lose scola because of lack of minutes at pf, very hyped player that will demand top max, has had several knee problems and word is he has lost a step already, isnt known as a great defender,and cant play center , certainly cannot be a starting center, Rockets will have to gut the entire bench (budinger/hill/picks) and future. Leaves team very weak for future deals ,future center help, future drafts, basically the entire team will hinge on Bosh staying healthy much like Tmac years. His ft per game might even go down like Martins when he becomes a Rocket because refs try to make fouls even for both teams,he wont have the opportunities to draw as many fouls since there is only 1 ball and 5 good starters on the Rockets. Is 1 year older than AL jefferson. Toronto will be getting offers from other teams(dallas,miami) that will take on Hedos contract, rockets from my insight should not and will not take on hedos or calderons contracts. ................................. Al Jefferson: positives: 1 year younger than Bosh, 5 years younger than Scola. Will play center when yao is injured so that we can still keep Scola .Blocks 1/2 more bpg than Bosh. The difference between 1bpg and 1.5 is alot actually. Same rebounder as Bosh possibly better offensivve rebounder. Better defender than Bosh. WILL play CENTER. Loves contact, has recovered from his injury well. Smaller contract than Bosh will demand. Probably easier to get than Bosh. Will train in HOUSTON this summer with HAKEEM to advance his game. If yao is slow to recover, we got our starting center in Jefferson,while at the same time giving Scola the starting job at pf. We wont have to worry about Yao going down again because a lineup of brooks/martin/ariza/scola/jefferson is stacked. Id rather have the player that spends his offseason in hot houston training at fonde with Hakeem than a player that sits on twitter asking for advice from fans. negatives: not many , maybe his knee, Kahn is a hardass, and will make it hard to optain jefferson.
Jefferson's TS% is pathetic for a big man. He rarely ever goes to the line. He also plays poor defense. He is also injury prone. In short, there isn't much out there that is a worst player judging by the typical things that Morey says he cares about.
If we're going to run with Jefferson/Scola/Ariza/Martin/Brooks our D is going to be so bad that I'd rather get the better scorer anyway.
Sorry but Scola becomes redundant if we get Bosh. Jefferson is injury prone and can't defend. I'll take Bosh.
who said we will lose scola if we get Bosh?? in fact I think it is the exact opposite... Bosh will be acquired via a sign and trade, so he will come cheaper... with that said I still chose Bosh.
I like Jefferson but the fact he had a major injury is a history in itself that Morey has to consider (I realize that Stoudemire has a injury history as well but his starpower and potential is much higher than Jefferson). And even though he is better defensively than Bosh, many consider Jefferson a black-hole on offense. Not sure how he fits in Adelmans system but he's better than Chuck thats for sure. All in all, I agree with you regarding Jefferson. Adelman, im sure, will find a way to integrate him on offense and we need a beast next to Yao. They dont call him "The Animal" for nothing. Jefferson seems to fit most of the criteria. I think the down side of this is that we may have to give up Jordan Hill and/either/or Scola as well.
Don't Pro-Jefferson people find it troubling that he's only won 33% of his games as a professional, and that his teams have been consistently bad? He's got some nice physical tools and there's no doubt that he's a polished offensive player. There is potential there. But as of yet, I don't think he's figured out how to be a great player, and he may never figure it out. His injury history has to be a concern as well. Bosh will cost more, of course, but he's in my view easily the better player. He may be the best high-post big in the league too, which would fit wonderfully in Adelman's offense. Bosh has to be our target.
Can't the same be said for Bosh, he has won 44% of his games and has consistently been on bad teams. Neither is a #1 option on a team looking to compete for a championship.
Let's take a look: Note that in Jefferson's first two seasons, he was a role player, playing less than 20 mpg, and Paul Pierce was the main guy. Since then, with him as the featured star, his teams have never won as frequently. 2009, mildly impressive relative to the other seasons, represents half a season's worth of work, since he had a season ending injury after 50 games. I would say Bosh's teams have had a much stronger record. To say he's had consistently bad teams, like Jefferson, is not accurate.
The raptors have had 1 season above .500 since the arrival of Bosh. I consider anything .500 and below bad. So 6/7 seasons is something I would consider consistently bad.
Alright, then I'll say Jefferson's teams have been consistently God-awful, where by "God-awful" I mean below 40%. I'd rather go after a guy who's teams have been mediocre-bad than consistently God-awful.
OK, let's say Jefferson is a bad idea and Morey pulls Bosh out of his magical hat. Is there anything the Wolves might want from us for Rubio, something that might entice them to part with his rights? I keep thinking that Bosh and Rubio are both targets for Morey. Kind of a hunch.
LOL. Before his injury, Jefferson was arguably one of the best centers in the league. However, after his injury he couldn't really come back to the level he was before the injury. I really like him though.
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Funny how the OP has a huge list of negatives for Bosh and sticks to Jefferson's positives. I would not call CB4 injury prone btw, he's had a few issues, but nothing has been major, unlike Jefferson. The only negative with Bosh is his defense and inability to come up big in crunch time. Unless Al is ahead in these areas I don't see why anyone would take him over Bosh. Also, if Yao comes back even at 75% of what he was, Bosh will be a better fit to play along side him.
Oh, I agree, Bosh is obviously the better player, my point was just that I would not blow up the team to acquire either of them, neither are #1 guys
