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The Bob Mcnair Question

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Summer Song Giver, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. Summer Song Giver

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    The question is simple.

    Since we have religously put our butts in the seat for the man, has he done enough to field the best team and coaching staff in return?

    My answer is that he has not and outside of empty talk in the media he has done little to prove that he is an owner who truly cares abotu winning over other out$ide influences.
     
  2. javal_lon

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    I disagree.... The man brought football back to Houston... That alone gets him 20 years of unconditional support .... Sure he could have did things differently (coaching staff)... If anything he has been too loyal to his rmployees... He should start slicing and dicing these mfers this offseason...
     
  3. msn

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    I agree. It was better when we had no NFL. /rollyeye
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    The Bubb McRubb question:

    What sound do the whistles make?

    [​IMG]

    WOOO WOOOOOOOO
     
  5. Nick

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    What's the point in discussing this? Even if he was the worst owner that ever lived (which he is not)... you can't force him to trade himself, or force him to sell the team. If you don't want to support his team, then you can stop buying tickets... even though he will still make his money. Hell, the Bengals haven't sold out any games this year and they still make money.
     
  6. justtxyank

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    This question is so tainted.

    Do I believe he has made poor decisions when it comes to head coaches and personnel people? Yes I do. Is it fair to say it is because he doesn't care about winning? Not in my opinion. He spent a ton of money to bring football to this city and the Texans regularly spend up to the cap.

    I think some of his personal philosophies are not conducive to running a good football team, but to call him cheap (which is what you did with the out$ide line) is unfair and not supported by facts. He doesn't believe in FA and he believes in continuity to a fault. He also took a stance in the labor negotiations that hurt his football team in my opinion.

    None of that means he hasn't tried hard enough. He has just failed as an owner thus far.
     
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  7. ima_drummer2k

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    I still maintain that our cheerleaders need to show more cleavage. Compared to all the other NFL squads, ours dress like nuns. And I think that all goes back to our owner wanting to maintain a wholesome family-friendly game-day atmosphere.
     
  8. javal_lon

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    LOL... If he was all about the money , he would allow us to trick em... Then take his cut!!!... Selfish mfer
     
  9. conquistador#11

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    I will say this about Bob. He is a very patient man.
     
  10. Rocket River

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    I was wondering about the NO KNUCKLEHEAD policy
    Which means . . no players talks out of turn more than anything

    Because all the players are 'choir boys' . . you know they won't
    Call out anyone or throw anyone under the bus . . .even if they deserve it
    because of this
    The ownership can ALWAYS say the Players love a coach
    Even if they don't . . how would we know . . because they would never
    say anything against their coach

    There seems to be no Honest criticism on this team
    I can like the WE sucked. . WE did this wrong.. WE need to do this right
    kind of thing . . . but sometimes. . .someone needs to just say
    KAREEM DOESN'T NEED TO BE OUT THERE

    Watching Allen getting interviewed after the loss was painful
    REPORTER: You seem to be doing well . . .why weren't you out there? out there more? Are you upset
    Allen: Uhm . . well . . .I . . uhm We just loss and so . . we uhm .. . always up set after a loss. . . Uhm it is not make call . . uhm . .. the coaches. . uhm . . . you know . .

    He was struggling mightily to NOT Say I SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT THERE

    Rocket RIver
     
  11. javal_lon

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    Easy to be when the city is still behind you and spends like we do... Give us 5 more years of this mediocrity and watch how quick McNair start pullin plugs on folks jobs....
     
  12. msn

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    neither Creamed Jackson nor Allen should be out there.
     
  13. macalu

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    do you really think that Bob Mcnair doesn't care about winning? Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean he isn't trying or want it. no owner makes the right moves all the time albeit it feels as though he's made no right moves at all. the franchise is still "young" and we will succeed eventually. and all owners care about the bottom line.
     
  14. msn

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    erm, by definition, it would not be "quick" after five more years. that would be patient to a gross fault--and I don't expect that.
     
  15. DonkeyMagic

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    true.

    I think he does care about winning. Personally, i find it comical to make a statement that he doesn't care.

    I do think he made some bad personnel hires... in retrospect. At the time Dom Capers was seemingly a great selection. He had experience and relative success with a new franchise and Charlie Casserly was very well respected and had great success.

    Rick Smith and Kubiak were also very well respected and highly thought of.

    His biggest flaw is his patients
     
  16. javal_lon

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    we're talking hypothetics and sarcasm here...bear wit me MSN...no need to critique mane..lol
     
  17. msn

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    haha aight I check mah sarc-meter mane :)
     
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  18. A_3PO

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    Bob McNair deserves credit for bringing the NFL back to Houston, but he's made out like a bandit since doing so. He cares about winning, but maybe not enough. He's not the worst owner, but he's definitely not close to being one of the best.

    Some organizations (not necessarily NFL teams) have a culture where failure is not acceptable and everyone knows there will be a price to pay. When things aren't going well enough, nobody is comfortable. Seems like the Texans organization is too comfortable with failure and there is a lack of accountability and fear. It's a comfy place to work if you mainly care about a paycheck and fit McNair's mold. He's more concerned with the personalities of the people he hires than how good they are at what they do. He sets a tone that hinders the franchise.
     
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  19. solid

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    On target, my thoughts exactly. Just because someone is so good at business that they make millions doesn't mean they know how to run a professional sports team. The guy is in OJT, and in my opinion, not doing well.
     
  20. Hey Now!

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    Is there a football player that DOESN'T believe that? The Raiders torched Jason Allen. Repeatedly. The same play run consecutive times. I'm no Kareen Jackson fan, and he very obviously gets targeted a lot - but I can't recall a team blatantly running the same play, on the same drive, repeatedly and just beating him over the head with it like Oakland did to Allen.

    Allen makes more plays on the ball - but he's not very good, and not appreciably better than Jackson. Worse tackler, in fact. I'm OK with all the Jackson hate you want to muster - but they don't have a viable alternative on the roster right now.
     

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