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The Blood of Heroes

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, Dec 12, 2003.

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  1. giddyup

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    Good God. Are we still on this? Yeah, I don't care anymore, you are 100% correct giddy. All of us who are questioning what went on in Iraq don't care about our troops. Yup, we just don't give a damn. Freedom isn't free, blah, blah, even though our freedom was never threatened or anything. Thanks for reminding us, it was stupid of us to claim that we are just questioning what is going on and why we are doing what we are doing. We were just ashamed to admit that we forgot about our troops and the sacrifices they made. Yup, the secret is out. Let's be good patriots and forget that no WMD has been found or that Osama is still at large.
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    A real message reminding people about the sacrifice of our troops throughout our history wouldn't contain political rhetoric and jabs at people with dessenting opinions. This site is just exploiting the sacrifice of others.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    In contrast to MadMax's quagmire,


    WWII,
    Sacrafice
    Freedom
     
  4. GreenVegan76

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    Your heart is in the right place, giddyup, but that's one of the most offensive pro-war sites I've seen.

    I don't protest war, terror and violence because I "forgot" about Sept. 11, 2001. How could any American forget? I protest because Sept. 11 proves that violence *always* leads to more violence. Always.

    And I don't want my grandchildren to be fighting wars my generation was too scared to stop.
     
  5. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    He's heart isn't in the right place for trying to make people feel ashamed.
     
  6. MR. MEOWGI

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    That music scares me.
     
  7. giddyup

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    Oski and pgabriel: Nobody can make you feel ashamed; either you do or you don't.... The author's choice of the word "forget" may be regrettable; seems like it may be more a question of focus or perspective i.e. how big is your picture?

    GV76: Consider what Thomas Jefferson said about the Tree of Liberty being drenched with blood of both tyrants and patriots from time to time. Your goal to end this war to protect your descendants is exactly the same as Samuel Adams' (?) expressed. Are you being realistic?
     
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    Thank you for posting that, giddyup. That was very powerful. These hateful, defensive responses from our liberal friends only reveal their insecurities. Keep up the good fight.
     
  9. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Merry Christmas, bigtexxx!
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    :D

    Let shame and intimidation ring through the halls! Deck the halls with conformity and tunnel vision!
     
  10. Nomar

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    Or just conform to your nonconformity? :confused: :eek: :p
     
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    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    This is actually a good point, if you ask me.
     
  12. kpsta

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    "They're all a bunch of Nazi conformists cheerleaders."
     
  13. Mulder

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    ya, pfft conformists.
     
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    hey, the best way to feel better from being wronged is to make sure others feel the same way. If there was peace in the world, there would be no need for Jesus and his ideas.
     
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    The clip was moving, but I don't get it.

    Is there some connection between the 9/11 tragedy and the stupidity of having more Americans and a lot of Iraqis killed?

    I was moved by it and it made me think how necessary it is to get rid of Dubya, whose ignorant policies encourage terrorism against Americans. It was horrible how he misused our collective grief to push for the stupid and unecessary war.

    What a disgrace to dishonor the 9/11 victims and their families by using their tragedy so cynically.

    Shame on Dubya.
     
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    I think it's pretty obvious that I am ashamed of nothing. You on the other hand, ought to think what you hoped to achieve by showing us this website.

    I supported this war before it started because of things like the 61,000 killed by Saddam. Of course, I could bring up lots of similar situations and I seriously doubt certain people would be as gung ho about going into those other countries and doing the right thing.

    Tyrants aren't the only thing I'm against though, I'm also against people who exploit heroes like that site did for the sake of politics. What does that site do? It doesn't honor anybody, it just tells people that if they think this country didn't do the right thing, it means they don't care about the sacrifice of soldiers, even if those people are veterans.


    If you want to actually honor heroes, and not exploit them for political purposes why don't you look for sites like this, a none govt web site that truly is about honoring those who served.
    http://www.usmemorialday.org/

    It even has a list of National Memorials. I'm sure you'll find some you haven't been to yet.
    http://www.usmemorialday.org/memorialsfull.htm
     
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    Returning violence for violence multiples violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars.
     
  18. giddyup

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    All I did was give you something to think about.
     

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