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[The Atlantic] Is Google Dying? Or Did the Web Grow Up?

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  1. Ubiquitin

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    Over the last 5 years, and noticeability the last two years, search results are often unusable. I use Google, Bing and DuckDuckGo and all three engines fall prey to this clickbate garbage taking up the first few pages. The worst is searching for an IT problem for some unhelpful bozo in the company's forums to say this problem is marked as solved despite there being no solution and future problems then redirect to the original "solved" post. I resort to the Reddit trick but even that fails.

    The Open Secret of Google Search
    One of the most-used tools on the internet is not what it used to be.

    By Charlie Warzel

    Read more at The Atlantic.
     
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    I only use Bing and at least half the page of results are marked as "ads". I'm pretty sure Google is the same.

    Then, much of the actual results are certainly invalid. I totally agree about searching for technical answers to stuff takes a lot of time wading through non-answers.

    The problem is the "internet" is not really the internet. It's a bunch of walled gardens but are allowed to interconnect, sometimes.
     
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  5. TheJuice

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    Google Scholar FTW
     
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    You use bing?


    Dafuqqqq
     
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  7. krosfyah

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    Yep, I'm an IT professional and switched about 2 years ago. Never looked back. I might use Google about once a month, maybe.

    Bing shopping is amazing. I've gotten back something like $500 cash deposited directly into my Paypal account for shopping that I would have done anyway. Plus I get other points to buy other stuff and it suggests alternatives of what you are looking at that is cheaper.

    Oh, and you get the added benefit of not supporting the evil empire of Google. If you wanna be a sheeple, feel free. But there are alternatives.
     
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    Web Browsers were born with the Rockets Championship, and now they will die with them. It's science.
     
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  9. Invisible Fan

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    Google is still superior with the searches. I mean if you measure by “the first two links” then there’s parity with competitors.

    Deep searches is a different matter. You want research papers, pron, linx, old docs, creeper background checks or even old db passwords, duckduckgo isn’t going deliver. I have it on my tablet and it suxx…but i em fweeeee!!

    As for Google stifling growth and becoming monopolistic, John Oliver got a good point. Fuggin greasy chuck schumer letting tech and banks spit roast him.
     
  10. steddinotayto

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    Coming from a person that grew up with Lycos, AskJeeves, Webcrawler, and various search engines that came up during the late 90s you just gotta do more homework (e.g. read) when searching for stuff, specifically past the headline result and into the summary and/or URL itself.
     
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    ha! i thought I was the only one resorting to adding reddit for any meaningful results.

    the regular google searches are useless. look up any tech issues...say anything relating to an iphone and it just takes you to a generic article talking about resetting the iphone. GEE THANKS.
     
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    Yeah, it's ass especially if you're on a mobile device and want a portable how-to. Takes like 3 or 4 results (plus mental filtering of those spam links) to get there.

    On a desktop browser, ublock origin makes the internet a lot nicer looking...
     
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    I normally have to get pretty clever on tech searches to get through all the garbage results... I feel bad for people typing actual questions instead of just using keywords/specific error etc.

    SEO is to blame for a lot of this, ie people know how to game it to get results and then Google has to keep evolving, I think you're right though, like end game probably doesn't look pretty.

    Reddit is definitely better than some of the garbage I've seen from other generic fixes Google will try to provide. It varies though from product to product. And yes, I have used it to just search reddit/tech sites since Googles indexing in general is better than going to some sites directly.

    I do find the advanced tools search (looking at limited date ranges) - will help, especially if it's related to a new/recent software/fw update etc.
     
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    which browser has the best results for teh faps? asking for myself
     
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    So today, I redeemed an award and got a $50 gift card that I used towards a new pair of headphones.
    I also got rebates for a total of $378 deposited into my PayPal account in the past 2 years.

    So Bing literally puts $-money in your pocket.
    What does Google pay you?
     
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    isn't google and yahoo the same?

    That's what my chrome uses for search.
     
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    The article was an interesting read. Agree on most points, maybe differ on the degree of some of the annoyance factor.

    Some impressions:
    • Had read the page rank white paper back in the day, was nice to see the article including it.
      • That algorithm is what put Google ahead of the other search engine. Lycos, Yahoo...etc. For a while meta crawler was king because it aggregated those other search engines. Despite liking metacrawler, Google was much better that, I had to convert.
      • As the masses caught on; was so good that users got lazy even.
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    • Some sites using words or phrases to get on top of the results, that's been happening for ages.
    • Have done the +reddit thing, I do so when I want to read a discussion or see a reaction on some things like current events.

    Recommendation default search use
    1. DuckingGo for privacy (ideal default). It's gotten much better over the years, but still not as good as Google.
    2. If results limited then go to Google.
    3. No hate on people using Bing. You do you. There's a couple other good international search engine as well.
     
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