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The Adelman effect

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by trugoy, Dec 22, 2010.

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  1. trugoy

    trugoy Member

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    people always talk about the D'antoni boost, where players get huge stats playing in D'Antoni's offensive system. I think there is just as big an Adelman effect that helps us in trades.

    Look at the players that have arrived and left Houston in Adelman's time.

    All the increases were in the season directly following the trade or the same season so player development is not a factor other than the system.

    Trevor Ariza - since getting traded to a better team, he has worse FG%, worse 3PT%, worse Assists

    Carl Landry - since getting traded, worse FG%, worse rebounding

    Artest - worse 3PT%, worse rebounding, worse assists

    All the above are per 36min stats and not raw stats, so this adjusts for playing time.

    Now look at the new arrivals who have signifcant time.

    Lowry - increased FG%, increased 3p%, increased rebounding

    Martin - increased FG%

    Miller - increased FG%, increased 3P%, increased assists
     
  2. shaggylambda

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    roles also change, but system does have an effect.
     
  3. Dave_78

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    Opposite of the JVG effect (and I'm a huge JVG fan).
     
  4. saitou

    saitou J Only Fan

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    To be fair, Ariza's FG% dropped when he came here from the Lakers. Different role etc., but that can be said about the other players on your list.
     
  5. Captain Hook

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    I didnt think Ariza was that good anyway

    Ron Artest percentages dropped because he is a rhythm shooter and he can't jack up shots like he did here because Kobe Bryant will bench him if he does

    Carl Landry's percentages dropped because the level of talent around him is not as good as it is here.
     
  6. RedRedemption

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    That's because this offense spreads everyone out. The ball is always (at least supposed) to be getting swung around and it's designed for players to end up with open shots or layups.
     
  7. trugoy

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    Well it could be that the lakers have a better system than we do.
     
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    Morey told you to keep quiet on this.
     
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    Pretty good insight. Landry even started for the Kings last season, when he was traded to SAC.

    To be fair to him though, they had Tyreke Evans, who is a major ball-stopper. You could argue Aaron Brooks last season was our "Tyreke Evans" but Landry came off the bench for us, limiting PT with Brooks, while starting with Evans.
     
  10. Old Man Rock

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    That can be said across the board for ex adelman players.

    Bonzi wells destroyed the spurs under Adelman. But then he gets to Houston and can't get on the court. Not even close to the same player. Peja was never the same. Webber sucked after he left. Doug Christie had a big dropoff.

    The Bottom line is you really run Adelmans ofense it is going to give you better shots and all of your percentages will get better.
     
  11. Don FakeFan

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    also Von Wafer, who was scoring close to 10 points per game under Adelman.

    but we need to sell Brooks and Budinger while Adelman effect is still working.
     
  12. RainbowPoop

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    You forgot to mention one thing after the adelman effect

    -signed
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  13. RV6

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    we've slowly taken out players who didnt fit this offense and brought in those who did....loooks like it's just about having players that are better suited for this offense. Once you have more players that are suited for it, than are not, it's easier for the others to blend in and improve.

    Also, the team culture, with adelman or without him, is better than the culture of those teams. Despite all the injuries and rumors there's less stress, bickering, and issues in the lockerroom. If you like your co-workers you're likely to work better and harder.
     
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    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    No wonder he and Dantoni have no rings. Can't inflate your way to titles.
     
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    Brian Cook's ppg skyrocketed from 1.4 last year to 6.1 this year.

    It all depends on the player.
     
  16. sweetbobl

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    This can also be the Daryl Morey affect. He knows who fits the Adelman system.
     

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