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Texas worried about turning purple resorting to cheating to win

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Sep 4, 2024.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    1. Nearly a half-million democratic voters were removed because they didn't respond to a letter, where as many other groups (Republican ones) were never sent such a letter.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/4849711-texas-voter-roll-purge-million/

    2. Paxton recently executed search warrants on a bunch of homes in Texas. No undocumented voters, and no evidence of votes by undocumented Texans, were found. By pure chance, however, the homes all belonged to Democratic activists, particularly members of the League of United Latin American. Talk about weaponizing politics. https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/26/us/texas-latino-voting-rights-investigation/index.html

    3. Paxton is still busy. Harris and Bexar counties (home to Houston and San Antonio, respectively) were busy at work on plans to allow people to register to vote via mail. On Monday, the AG sent letters to officials in both counties telling them they better not try it, and that he would sue them if they did. Paxton claims that the program would "confuse" noncitizens and "induce" them to register fraudulently. Those just so happen to be among the most heavily Latino counties in the state. Paxton probably didn't even know that, though, right?
     
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    Republicans won TX by 22.9 points in 2004, 15.8 points in 2012, and 5.6 points in 2020

    Dems made up 17 points in 16 years, and they don’t even spend that much time, money, or energy here…the margin will likely be lower than 5.6 points this election cycle

    TX has been trending purple for years, and republicans are terrified. What will TX look like by 2032 or 2036? Especially with the severe damage Trump and his MAGA cult have done to the republican brand?

    Mitt Romney won GA by 7.8 points in 2012…Trump won GA by 5.1 points in 2016, and then lost it by 0.3 in 2020…it is now a toss-up state
     
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    The Texas GOP is doing anything they can.

    I don't want to use the words "f**k with elections", but that's exactly what they are doing.

    It's really the only way they can keep power.
     
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    It's too bad that the current democratic senator candidate does not have the momentum that Beto Orourke had 6 years ago. It would be nice to kick Trump's b****, Ted Cruz to the curb.
     
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    I haven’t followed the senate election closely but from what I’ve been hearing is that Allred is either tied or narrowly trailing Cruz.
     
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    Colin Allred is down by 2 points to Ted Cruz IIRC…not holding my breath, but it’s possible he could win
     
  7. Amiga

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    Given Texas (Paxton's) record of finding real cases of fraudulent voters (barely any, and all of them US citizens AFAIK), I doubt their current stated stats and that they will find much illegal voting. But that won’t prevent them from repeating the same old claims that illegals are voting, and actions must be taken to clean up the system.

    This is what you call both 1) big government wasting taxpayers' money with little return to show for it, and 2) corruptly using the power of government for political advantage.

    NOTE: In 2023, there were six fraud cases from the TX AG. One involved a woman who didn’t realize her 20-year-old felony conviction (misuse of gift cards) prevented her from voting in Texas. Another involved a U.S. citizen who voted absentee in both Connecticut and Texas. The other four were charges against citizens accused of being paid during the 2016 election to forge mail ballots—the AG dropped the charges before the trial started.
     
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    It won't even stop there. Paxton and Cruz will be full on riding that Stop the Steal campaign like last time if Trump loses. Delaying certifications, challenging votes, and helping their corrupt criminal the orange man try to overturn the election again. I'm surprised they don't have show polish stains all over their lips from kissing Trump's tiny feet so much.

    If, and I sure as hell hope it doesn't happen, that con and psycho wins the election, I could see him naming Ken Paxton his Attorney General. He needs someone with the same racist and crooked mentality as him to support his agendas and cover his crooked ass from being charged with corruption. Paxton would be like Barr was, ensuring investigations were stopped involving Trump, like the Egypt 10 million dollar bribe thing, while repeating his lies like a loyal little foot soldier. There will be plenty of bribery and shady deals made with Dictators nipping at the bit for Trump to be elected. They'll be tripping over each other to be first in line to dangle those carrots to Trump.
     
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    There are more people with a progressive mindset. Unfortunately old grumpy people tend to vote at higher rates. Part of the reason is because it's difficult for certain demographics to vote, especially college students. My daughter is registered to vote in Austin, but she goes to school in Dallas. For her to vote, she has to drive 3.5 hours and skip class. I really think national elections should be a national holiday.
     
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    Definitely! Schools should be closed and businesses should be required to give people paid time off to vote. Not everyone can afford to take off work or miss classes.
     
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    I don't think Texas is at much risk of turning purple in the near term. Republicans have held every statewide office since 1994. If Alred beat Cruz, it might be the first chink in the armor, but mostly it'd be an aberration to chalk up to what an unlikeable person Cruz is. The crooks in Austin have another decade at least and maybe much more.

    But Paxton is very aggressive. He makes me think of Nixon the way he'll push legal gray areas just to run up the score when he's going to win anyway. The Republican grip on Texas is pretty safe and he doesn't need to pick on LULAC to keep it that way. And Republicans have a fair shot at winning significant (if minority) support among latinos in the state. Which might be why -- in the fight for the latino constituency, maybe they can tarnish the reputation of LULAC to give conservative latinos a rationale for distrusting them.
     
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    The Princeton gerrymandering project, who is responsible for the TX redistricting report card, gave TX an overall grade of F and partisan fairness grade of F, as the map significantly advantages the GOP.

    After the 2020 census, TX received 2 more US House Reps due to population growth that was 95% Hispanic and Black. However, Abbott gave them to majority white districts.

    In 2021, the TX GOP made extended early voting hrs and drive-thru voting illegal, after more BIPOC used them in 2020.

    In 2021 on the war room podcast, Ken Paxton admitted Trump would've lost TX in 2020 if blue counties were allowed to send mail-in ballots.

    Bell (red) and Harris (blue) counties were granted extra hr to vote in the 2022 elections by judges for the same reason. But Ken Paxton went to court to toss the Harris counties ballots, but not the Bell county ballots

    Since 2021 partisan poll watchers can record anyone receiving help voting, which has been mostly Hispanics who speak little/no English.

    In Travis County, a local GOP official went to Hispanic and Black people's homes who voted by mail in 2022 to accuse them of being ineligible to vote.

    In Beaumont, TX white poll workers followed Black voters and stood close enough to see how they voted, which is legal in TX.
     
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    How does TX's absentee ballot system work?
     
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    Texas Absentee Ballots - Vote.org

    You may vote by absentee ballot in Texas if:
    • You are 65 years or older.
    • You have a disability.
    • You are expected to give birth within three weeks before or after Election Day.
    • You will be out of the county on Election Day and during the period for early voting by personal appearance.
    • You are confined in jail or in involuntary civil commitment.
     
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    That sucks through and through...Do they have a number set up for faxed in votes?

    Republicans have that clamped down tight even if elderly voting is a more prone to fraud than any other age group.

    If TX ever overtakes CA in economic benchmarks, people will eventually demand more from shared services. CA ruined their local environment well before other states, and it took people demanding better for those regulations that are taken for granted and b****ed about non-stop. It's not perfect, but public health and safety is better off for it.
     
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    Maybe they are just poking the bear
    that will rise up against them eventually

    They been gerrymandering the sh*t out of Texas
    a chink in the armor now . . .. . . . would be great
    cause if they lose the governorship going into 2030 . . . .. . . In My Opinion . . . . they will be f*cked!
    If the gerrymandering is undone . ... . .. they will have it rough

    Rocket River
     
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    Because half of Cali moved here n wanna make this as ****ed up as Cali is.
     
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    Since you're new to politics, you might not know Texas used to vote for Democrats quite a bit statewide for governor and presidential elections. Georgia has voted for Dem president's several times in the past, with Clinton in the 90s being the time.

    That's laughable to say the Dems don't spend much in Texas. They certainly do as Texas has some big metros with a lot of Democratic voters. The push with Wendy in the early 2010s and then Beto later should have made that obvious
     
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    Nope. It's the people already here and the young people coming of age.

    https://www.texaspolicy.com/new-pol...texas-arent-going-to-be-voting-for-democrats/

    the Texas Tribune and UT Austin conducted a poll surveying the political orientation of California expats. The California arrivals were 57 percent conservative compared to 27 percent liberal.

    In a 2018 exit poll in the hard-fought U.S. Senate race between Sen. Ted Cruz (who had moved to Texas) and then-Rep. Beto O’Rourke (a Texas native), natives preferred O’Rourke by plus-3 points whereas movers favored Cruz by plus 15. Cruz won the race by 2.6 percent, meaning that if it were up to people who were Texans by birth, Cruz would have lost reelection.
     
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