when some of you say no better or worse parents than straight ones... do you mean individually or as a couple... If you had the two best gay parents and the two best straight parents... do you think there is no advantage to having a mother and a father? In other words, are you saying the whole mother figure and father figure thing isn't important?
I ask because obviously having a father figure etc along with a mother figure has always been talked about.. not even in relation to talking about gay parents, but when just talking about parenting in general... mother and father providing different things for the child.... so I ask do you think that is all overrated? a male can provide the things you gain from having a mother figure, and a female the things you gain from having a father figure?
thegary.. Actually I wasn't even posting about no parents or having parents. I was responding to something about gay parents being just as good as straight parents.. and asking that question.. that's why I said if you had the best possible gay parents or the best possible straight parents. which do you think would be optimal for raising a kid.
no optimal way to do things at all? I dunno about that.. I label some things optimal.. such as I think having two good parents is better than having one good parent so I'd label two parent environment as optimal...
the reason I bring up the last thing is because a lot of times you hear people from single parent families say they missed out on having father figure or mother figure.. whicih leads me to my original question of.. do you think "father" and "mother" figure matter at all? as far as the benefit of being raised by both a male and female.
Well being attracted to the opposite sex is natural - see reproduction. Whether homosexuality is or not is undetermined, and as I pointed out earlier both the homosexual and scientific communities are conflicted on this point. You would need to know the disadvantages to having gay parents to determine that - you just saying it doesn't make it true.
you could argue that there are disadvantages to being an idiot, an addict, an ethnic minority or having a small penis. nobody is perfect, not even you.
If two is better than one, is three better than two? Or should we keep it an even number and go with four?
Considering that you need TWO people to make a child. .you have TWO parents.. so no you don't increase to 3 lol
I only meant that they define themselves in terms of sexuality. If you practice homosexuality you would probably define yourself homosexual. I was not speaking as if that is all that a homosexual would use to define one's life. It is a sexual practice, and certainly not void of feelings and emotions. The sexual part defines the distinctions of this issue. My point #4 remains. We know a man and a woman are the necessary initial parents. No one should ever question that. Assuming parents are parents and their children are their children and parents should be good parents (whew! tired already) Then don't we have a deep problem of parenting that is rooted deeper than just homosexuals adopting or being foster parents. Wouldn't it work good if every child born had a very good, committed, responsible, loving, honest, mature, kind, unselfish, sincere, patient father and mother working the process. (I think if society went in that direction there would be fewer people feeling a homosexual orientation) No one is a perfect parent, but I think being a good parent, both father and mother is a high and worthy goal. I would say there is much work to be done in the whole area of parenting and I am not ready to say the quick fix is to find as many good alternate parents as possible. There are probably a list of qualifications for foster parents. There may be a list of reasons that homosexuals can't procreate that I certainly couldn't explain. But for now I would not be in favor of a homosexual couple taking custody of my 7 yr old if something were to happen to mom and me.
You're obviously too young to remember that classic 80s sitcom - My Two Dads... that girl welladjusted... and kinda cute.
kpsta. yeah I figured you were joking. i dind't notice the smile until after I posted I've heard of that sitcom, but don't remember it really. I was born in 83 so..
what about those gay penguins at the central park zoo? did they choose homosexuality because the gay penguin lifestyle just looked so, uhm, cool?
I understand that there isn't enough evidence for science to decide. But if it is a choice then it is a choice between two things. People would choose one or the other. Your claim that it is natural to be attracted to the opposite sex, that is certainly true for some. But it may not be for all. I know of homosexuals who definitely chose that for themselves. I know of others who believe it was totally natural for them to be homosexual. So while a few might choose it, I firmly believe that there are others who are naturally attracted to the same sex. Like I said I never chose to be heterosexual. It just happened that way. I can beleive that others just happened to be attracted to the same sex.
i'd like to chime in with some expert analysis on the genetic and/or social influences on sexuality....but sadly, i did NOT stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
FB, You can believe whatever you want, that doesn't make it so. I leave open the possibility it is genetic, and if so there is no or low risk of parents 'making their kids gay.' My point poses the other side of the coin - what if it is a choice? Then there are variables that should be considered rather than blanketly saying 'oh this is just gay bashing.' As a species we are genetically coded to have relations with the opposite sex. Whether homosexuality is a genetic mutation or choice is unknown. If it is a choice then having homosexuals as parents can foster an environment producing more homosexuals. That is potentially bad. Most of the people think it is bad, which is why politicians push the issue. That's a stupid argument. Using that as a guideline you would use NO standards to decide who should be parents. 'Well hey, no one is perfect!' In fact, if the downside was significant then society does indeed set limits on who can and can not be parents (or at least have custody of children).
99% of all homosexuals originated through heterosexual sex (not an exact figure, but probably doesn't need to be). Maybe the best way to prevent these types of problems would be to stop irresponsible heterosexual breeders from continuing to produce so many sexual deviants. Then we can stop worrying about it and get on to more important and immediate issues. Like making the chuckwagon the official vehicle of the state of Texas.
