After the Rose Bowl everybody has been talking about a possiblity of Vince Young going #1 to the Texans. Being drafted in playing in his hometown should be something, but that would mean giving up on Carr and passing up BUSH who everybody has been wishing for all year long. So just asking, If Vince Young decides to come out would you rather have the Texans draft Young and go with a Young/DDavis combo or stick with Bush because one game shouldn't change your mind Carr/Bush. Vince Young reminds me of Randall Cunningham Cunningham 1990-91 Philadelphia 3466 passing yrds 942 rushing yrds & Reggie Bush reminds me of Tony Dorsett 5-11, 192 1976 Heisman Trophy winner. . .Draft-day trade made him Cowboys’ No. 1 pick, 1977
or can we trade Carr/DDavis/2nd rd pick & next yr 1st rd pick to New Orlean for the #2 pick and draft Reggie Bush #1 Vince Young #2
actually the poll should read Carr/Bush/Davis or Young/Davis. Here's a trade for New Orleans consideration. Carr and a pick or two for Brooks and their #1. We take Brooks contract off their hands and give them back an establlished NFL QB in exchange for their pick. Then we've got Brooks to nurture Young for a year or two at most while he is learning the ropes. Young reminds Kubiak of a young Elway. He brings in those lineman and teaches them the zone blocking schemes that Denver uses. Look out. Young Bush Domanick Andre Mathis
How about this: Trade Carr for a 2nd round pick. Use that 2nd round pick and the 3rd round pick (from the New Orleans trade last season) to trade up to late first round and pick Lendale White. Use #1 overall pick on Super Vince. QB: Vince Young RB: Dominick Davis & Lendale White WR: Andre Johnson As much as I love Reggie Bush, I seriously have doubts about him running in between the tackles. Watching him last night, everytime he had the ball, he always tried to bounce it outside the tackles. When I see Bush play, I see a faster Brian Westbrook. Personally, I think Lendale White's gonna be a great running back in the next level.
You don't draft Bush to be your exclusive back. That's why domanick davis is key here. He's the Lendale White of the team next year and will be the big back that goes through the middle while Bush can be used all over the place as a RB or in the slot or as a regular wide reciever. He's Brian Westbrook with more power and equal if not better speed. The thing about Bush is that he's only useful if the coach is creative. A guy like Capers would waste a talent like Bush because he's too conservative when it comes to calling plays. I'm not sure how Kubiak (who i'll assume will be the next coach) is in terms of his philosophy but I'm sure he's better about this than Capers. On the flip side, if we do land Kubiak, he's a guy who dealt with a quarterback that can run that also has questionable passing skills (Jake Plummer) and has really turned him into a really solid NFL QB. I'm sure he could do wonders with Vince Young.
See that's the key. If you think he's just a better brian westbrook, then in my opinion, he's not worth the overall #1 pick. He has to be able to carry the ball 20+ times a game to be considered a franchise "running back". With Young, he will touch the ball every single time, and will have a direct affect at what will happen in the game.
No, he doesn't. He has to be a threat on every play and cause defenses to be distorted because they have to account for him on every play. Bush has that ability, kinda like Marcus Allen. The defense has to concentrate so much on him that it opens up everything else. He's got the pass catching ability, and vision of Marcus Allen, the cutback ability and moves of Barry Sanders, the make 'em miss, speed, and improvisation ability of Gale Sayers, and the heart of Walter Payton. He's a game changer, a game breaker. Yes, Vince is all of those things too. But Vince has to play the QB position. He's got to run the plays and then improvise. Vince will have a learning curve in the NFL. Just look at Vick. As electric as he is, he's still got to learn to play the QB position better in the NFL before he's going to win anything. All you got to do with Bush is plug him in. I'd love to have Vince but not at the expense of passing up on Bush. I only want Vince if we can get him in a trade somehow to play along with Bush. Otherwise, the Carr/Bush/Davis makes too much sense. Carr's already got the experience, and he's got a gun for an arm. He's an extremely solid NFL quarterback that will become a Pro Bowler as his team improves. Pair him up with Bush and we win 9 games next season.
He'll be a regular brian westbrook with a conservative like Dom Capers. He'll be a superstar with a coach that utilizes his talent and uses him all over the place. He may only get 15 rushes a game but he'll get plenty of catches and some good kick/punt returns. He's an all around utility player that can do a little of everything.
Okay first lets answer some main questions. 1) What are the team needs? Many things in the team need to be change. Our O line is embarasing and our Defense is not up to par. Our receivers aren't the greatest except for AJ. We have a good RB. 2) why draft Reggie? The best RB to come out in a draft for long time. We all know who he is but why should we draft him when our needs are greater. We have a good RB. Compare Reggie and DD and the result come out equal. Both RB will give you same results but Reggie bush will just make it stylish. He is still a great player that i would love to see in texans uniform. 3) why draft Vince Young? Best player in the country. Home town hero. If we compare hime to David Carr than we can clearly see Vince as a better player. He can run behind the offensive line that can do a better run protection than pass protection. Also his passing abbility is underrated. So basically what Texans need to do is compare and see if replacing DD is a better option or replacing David Carr. However, it doesn't matter who we pick It will still not going to help us get better in the positions that we need to change like O line, more WR, Defense.
Screw the talent angle. The NFL is all about money. Can you imagine ticket sales if the Texans draft Vince Young? I think McNair is hearing cash register bells in his head, and that is why the Texans will draft Vince Young if he comes out.
Not ****ty for long with Vince Young on your team. Look at how his attitude alone makes people better....his leadership. I have not seen leadership like that in a QB since Joe Montana, John Elway, or Roger Staubach....come under pressure and you just KNEW they were going to win. DD
I say we rebuild around Vince. So what if we stink next year, we should be better than this year, and if we arent we'll pick up someone good in the draft. In the meantime. Vince will sell out the games on pure viewing pleasure. Besides rebuilding with Vince (seeing as how he is a good leader and learns quite quickly freshman year -> junior year) wont take very long 2 years tops
i'll make your point even more for you... REBUILD TO WHAT?? rebuilding assumes you've done some building before. the highest win total for this franchise is 7 wins. they went from 7 wins to 2 wins over the last year. what exactly are we rebuilding??? we're still trying to build to begin with...still trying to find ourselves. after 4 years, this franchise has no identity.
Apples to apples, Vince Young is a greater upgrade over David Carr than Reggie Bush is over Domanic Davis. Before, when Vince was determined to return to burnt orange, this wasn't worth the time to debate. But now that he's the leader of the best team in the country, his stock can't rise any higher. It's time for him to enter the NFL draft. Which is why the threads are starting like mad. I'm in the Vince Young camp. Not only 'cause I like him better than Bush, but because I think Dan Reeves will prefer to build around Vince.
