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TEXANS PLEASE GET A NEW COACH!!!!

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by jojobabbu, Sep 28, 2009.

  1. jojobabbu

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    whoever is going to the next game bring banners. Get McNairs attention. WE WANT COWHER!! NOW!!!!
     
  2. GlenRice

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    I want Kevin Sumlin.
     
  3. Hey Now!

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    no, "we" don't. this is not a cowher-built team. it would take years for him to rebuild it in his image.

    as frustrated as people are, and deservedly so - this isn't a 2-14 team*. right now, as of this morning, we're (probably) 2-4 players and/or better coaching away from being a really good team. i know 8-8 is frustrating, but 8-8 is a component of not being able to take the next step, not a sign the organization is in shambles. bringing in *any* coach that would drastically change things is not a good idea.

    (* i don't think.....)
     
  4. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    Is this what we're going to see after every Texans loss this season????

    If Brown wouldn't have fumbled and scored that TD this thread would have never been thought of by this doof!

    Lame as hell. :rolleyes:
     
  5. jojobabbu

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    So you're saying you're OK with Kubiak? :eek:
     
  6. jojobabbu

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    Texans need a coach that gets pissed off all the time because clearly you don't see that fight in the players. GET COWHER.
     
  7. FLASH21

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    I'm saying its not the coach its the players.

    Especially the defense.
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    Fixed that for you.
     
  9. jojobabbu

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    uhh after 4 years of Kubiak and the defense sucking this much we are more than 2 players away..We are an entire offensive line, defense line, running back, and secondary being away from a decent team. Kubiak is nothing more than an offensive assistant where there is no doubt where he excels. Hard to beleive but we are in rebuiling mode atleast with Cowher you get a proven winner.
     
  10. jojobabbu

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    Poor play is a sign of poor leadership. Get Cowher.
     
  11. HillBoy

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    Forget Cowher - he has ZERO interest in coming here. And even on the off chance that he would, it would be 3-4 years before he had completely torn down the team and rebuilt it from the ground up which is another reason why he won't come here. No, it is all on Kubiak this year. If this were poker, I'd say that he's betting it all on the cards he's holding. For both his sake and the team's, I hope he's right.
     
  12. Major

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    I tend to agree in terms of wholesale changes, but the main things Cowher would probably change is the defense, and the argument there is that the personnel isn't built for a 3-4. But is the Texans' defensive personnel any good anyway? If Mario Williams and Demeco Ryans (and Cushing, I guess) can work in a 3-4 (I have no idea if they can), is any of the other personnel really worth worrying about?

    On the offensive side, there's enough skill personnel to be flexible as needed. You see lots of new coaches come in and have immediate positive impacts on teams, and they often do wholesale changes. A good coach will take the best of what a team already does and take a fresh look at the areas that they aren't good at.
     
  13. Major

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    Why does everyone assume Cowher would tear down the team and rebuild it? What coach actually does that? Just about every coach comes in and builds on what's already there.
     
  14. FLASH21

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    If we were to switch up the coaching position I'd go after Gruden. He'd have a better impact and would put more work into the team than Cowher would. IMO

    And like Hillboy said, he's not interested now nor will he ever be in coaching the Texans.
     
  15. Major

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    To clarify, since these seem opposite ideas, most new coaches don't blow up teams. They bring fresh approaches to weak areas of the team along with the normal annual personnel improvements. Two examples that come to mind are Gruden when he took over Tampa, and Dungy when he took over Indy. Both of those teams were very good on one side of the ball and terrible on the other. They left the good parts of the team alone, and focused on the other side where they were weak.

    Now, those teams were better than the Texans so I'm not suggesting that it's an immediate route to the Superbowl, but it shows two very successful coaches who didn't mess with the strengths of their team, but brought a new approach to the weaknesses.
     
  16. msn

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    I love how fans automatically assume that the best retired coaches still breathing air will just immediately sign on the dotted line to work here.
     
  17. Major

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    I'm not sure Cowher would be interested simply because he's an east coast person. Gruden, on the other hand, might be fascinated by the appeal to coach an offense with so much raw (and relatively young) talent.

    Regardless, as with players, money motivates pretty well.
     
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    I'm one jarmacus russell 70 yard scramble away from having a mental breakdown. :(

    I guess now we know why the previous Defensive Coordinator always played the bend but don't break.Our Blitz looks like redcoat linear formation, standing still.

    On the brightside,all we need is one fat DT,one safety, and one cornerback.
     
  19. emjohn

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    The Jets game had me furious with the coaching. This loss doesn't.

    -The offensive side of the ball is very good. Get the running game back to passable and the offense is a great one. The coaching staff did an impressive job getting creative with formations yesterday and molding the play calls to the strengths of the roster. Owen Daniels in a split back formation as FB. Double TE sets with a TE going into motion to overload the strong side. Kevin Walter lining up behind the line. They inserted a lot of wrinkles, and I liked what I saw.

    -They didn't lose yesterday because they were flat and uninspired. They lost because the Jags picked on Fred Bennett all day and it paid huge dividends.

    -The defense is better coached than last year, but still needs serious work. Frank Bush is doing a superior job to Richard Smith, and our run defense would be far worse if he wasn't utilizing the LB corps so well in run blitzes.
    The biggest thing killing the defense is very obviously the personnel issues. We've got backups masquerading as starters all over the line and secondary.

    Maybe you can attribute the busts (Okoye) and negligence on Kubiak and Rick Smith. But I don't know about the coaching itself. Maybe it is fair to say that a Cowher type would squeeze more fire out of the D-lineman, and more smarts out of the secondary.

    I personally want to know who thought it was a good idea to coach Bennett to lineup alongside the end in situations when he didn't have a cover. He didn't blitz, he didn't retreat in sideline containment, he just waited to be walloped out of the play each time. Clueless and mystifying. MoJo had the easiest time busting out for his 60 yd TD with no outside containment thanks to that bone headed "scheme". When the Jags needed to convert a 4th and 1? Same move, FB32 suckered on in, easy stretch play off his side. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

    Sliding back to my point:
    I agree that an upgrade in the defensive coaching staff may be an easier way to get better results than it would be to upgrade 6 positions mid-season. I don't think a total clean out of the coaching staff is warranted (especially not on the basis of yesterday).
     
  20. H-Town Info

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    If Kubiak get fired...I want Holmgren (offense philosophy stays the same).

    Holmgren has 3 super bowl appearances.
     

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