I am giving Vic and Palmer one more year of my unadultered support. But if we don't make the playoffs this next year then we need to replace Vic. I wouldn't fire Palmer just yet. I dont want to pull the only system that Carr knows from under him and expect him to keep growing as our QB. I think Carr is a franchise type QB but has had to wait for this team to grow. He would have done what Roethlisberger has done if he would have been drafted into an established system. And asked to be in a supporting role and pick his spots. Carr has felt like he needs to make everything happen. I do like how Palmer and Cappers have tried to lighten the load on him by establishing a running game. Even though it has been ugly at times.
IMHO, I do not see why we cannot challenge The Colts for the division title next season. Here is hoping they cannot keep EJ but I doubt it - they will franchise tag him. But we can still usurp the division regardless of what the Colts do in the offseason. Our defense just has to be more consistent. We are already ahead of the Titans for what it is worth. I see us making the playoffs next season if we can just improve albeit marginal on the OL and general defense. Heck we just finished 7-9 and a break here or there we could have sneaked in ahead of the Broncos.
I was really suprised this year how close we actually got to the playoffs. Its nice to play meaningful games in December.
I see it another way. I see Palmer not trusting his offense. I see him treating Carr with kid gloves in his 3rd year when the offense should have been opened up. I see him not paying much attention to pass blocking and worrying too much about the zone blocking for the running game. They didn't have zone blocking last year and DD broke 1,000 yds in 10 games and they gave up much fewer sacks than this year. How is it that Andre Johnson broke 1,000 yds by game 11 and then didn't break 1,200 yds? In the Cleveland game, what did they have to lose by throwing the ball down the field? Playoffs were out of the question. They were playing a 3-12 team who had lost 9 in a row. If you come out firing and score early, they get down and it becomes a blowout. Nope, Palmer simply has them running and throwing WR screens. If I see a fake end around one more time I will get sick. For now, I am ok with Fanagio. The defense really improved after the 1st quarter of the Indy game. No td's for 13 quarters was the best in the NFL this season. They will get better with some minor changes. I look for Babin to be much improved next season and for Dunta to get the title of "shut down corner." The DL needs improvement either through free agency or the draft. It's probably time to let Seth Payne go. I still think he is a good player but he has had some significant injuries that last 2 years and ain't exactly young any more. He's going to have to take a serious pay cut and understand that he isn't guaranteed a starting spot to come back. That said, I am already looking foward to next season. Either the Texans will be in the playoffs or we will be discussing possible new coaches this time next year. Hopefully, we will be talking about Pro Bowlers David Carr, Andre Johnson, Domanick Davis, and Dunta Robinson.
Saturday & Sunday games: Rams @ Seahawks -4 o/u 52 Jets @ Chargers -7 o/u 44.5 Broncos @ Colts -10 o/u 56 Vikings @ Packers -6.5 o/u 49 ===================== WEIRD FACT: The Texans lost 7 games to all of these 8 teams. The only other losses were to Cleveland and Detroit (not playoff teams) I am HAPPY for our 7-9 record... GO TEXANS!
Reading this disgusted me. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/2981659 By JOHN McCLAIN Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle The fan who poured beer on Melody Carr and other members of quarterback David Carr's family at Reliant Stadium on Sunday is guilty of just about the most cowardly and reprehensible act possible at an NFL game. And if you witnessed it and failed to get security to arrest the moron who did it, you're just as guilty. What happened to Melody Carr, who is pregnant with the couple's third child, is so disgusting that anyone who has information about it should call the Texans immediately, and they should launch an investigation. Fans like that should be exposed and prosecuted. Booing Carr is one thing because he's the franchise quarterback, and it goes with the territory, but taking out your frustration on his family is so shameful it almost defies explanation. Reading the daily letter on Page C2 of Wednesday's Chronicle describing the disgraceful treatment Carr's family received during the loss to the Browns brought back memories of similar treatment Dan Pastorini and Warren Moon suffered when they played quarterback for the Oilers. Carr handled the booing with class. During his regular postgame news conference, Carr said he would have booed, too. On his Monday morning spot on Sports Radio 610 AM, Carr said he understood the fans' frustration, didn't take it personally and accepted blame. He never brought up how his family had been treated. Now that it's become public, Carr still doesn't want to comment. Fortunately, Carr understands that idiots like the one who doused his family with beer represent a small segment of Houston, but, unfortunately, they tarnish the image of those Texans fans who are loyal, enthusiastic and supportive. Requested trade Pastorini, the Oilers' No. 1 pick in 1971, suffered through one losing season after another and was able to withstand the kind of beatings that usually take place in a boxing ring. Those who played with Pastorini were amazed at the physical pain he endured. Finally, it was mental anguish that caused his exit from Houston. In 1978, the first of two consecutive AFC Championship Game seasons for the Oilers under coach Bum Phillips, Pastorini played hurt. He took shots in his ribs and wore a shoulder brace. The flak jacket was invented to protect him. More than once, when Pastorini was injured and lying on the Astrodome's artificial surface, the fans cheered. And he never forgot it. After they lost at Pittsburgh to come one step short of the Super Bowl, Pastorini asked Phillips to trade him. Phillips asked Pastorini to play one more season, and if he felt the same way, he promised to trade him. In 1979, Pastorini and the Oilers played their second AFC Championship Game at Pittsburgh and lost again. "On the plane ride home, Bum came up to me and asked if I still wanted to be traded," Pastorini said Thursday. "He didn't think I'd say yes, but I did. At the time, I was uncertain about my arm, and I was just an emotional wreck." After the 1979 season, Phillips traded Pastorini to Oakland for quarterback Kenny Stabler. Today, both Phillips and Pastorini regret their decision — Phillips for agreeing to do it and Pastorini for asking his coach to live up to their agreement. "When I heard what happened to Carr and his family, it brought back some bad memories for me," Pastorini said. "When my family came to games, it would kill me to hear how they were treated. "I think Houston has the greatest fans in the world. They're devoted, and they're understanding. Only a few do things like that, but let me tell you, it's gut-wrenching to have to experience it. I'm not talking about getting booed because that's part of the game. "I'm talking about things your family experiences at games." Miserable memories It's difficult to imagine a player's family having a worse experience at home games than Moon's did after signing the largest contract in NFL history — $5.5 million over five years — in 1984. The Oilers struggled during his first three seasons, and Moon became a piñata for defensive linemen who used him for target practice. Felicia Moon and her children sat in the players' section at the Astrodome. Some fans who sat close to them and knew who they were yelled racial slurs at Moon's wife and children. At the time, Moon said he had been conditioned to block out racial slurs because he'd been hearing them since he became a quarterback, but it was getting so bad at the Astrodome he was going to recommend that his family not attend games. "The toughest thing was trying to explain the reasons for it to my son at my locker after games," Moon said Thursday. "When I first found out what they were going through, I was angry, but I was also upset because I couldn't help them." When the Oilers started winning in 1987, Moon and his family weren't subjected to as much abuse. Moon will be the first to tell you that, overall, he was treated well by the fans of Houston, but like Pastorini and now Carr, it was that one segment that can almost ruin it for everyone. Like Pastorini and Moon, Carr understands fans are going to take out their frustration on him. But how does he explain to his kids the behavior of Houston fans who screamed at their family during games, calling their father the ugliest names they could think of, and, finally, dousing their mother with beer? It's almost inexplicable to anyone with a conscience, but for those geranium brains out there, let's make it simple so you can understand: There's scum in every pond. Including ours, unfortunately.
is there any verification of that story at all??? past a letter to the editor??? carr isn't commenting.... did it happen???
It certainly seems that way. One of the posters is close to the Carr family. Looks like some fans are arranging to have some flowers, etc... delivered to his wife. http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?t=5678
http://www.draftshowcase.com/swmock05.htm 13. Houston Texans Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn Dommanick Davis has had a good later part of the year, but I still think he works better as a 3rd down or change of pace back. Brown would give the Texans a true feature back who can also catch the ball. If Thomas Davis is here though, I think Houston would jump on him before taking a running back.
Sporting News Current Mock Draft: Obviously the combine, and to a lesser extent the senior bowl type games will have a profound impact on these numbers, but Sporting News has done a better job with the rankings than many of the other sites have done the last couple of years from what I've seen.
One more thing that I was unaware of -- Carlelton Thompson reports in The Sporting News that Seth Payne tore two tendons in his abdomen in the finale. I was unable to watch the game, so please excuse me if this was somehow common knowledge. That would seem to add a great deal of uncertanty, given that he's a free-agent. Given this, and given the general up and down play of the D-line this year, as well as it's age, I have to assume that it's almost a lock that at least one d-lineman will be drafted on day one, and most likely as early as possible. Given the big free agent signing of Robaire Smith last year, I have to assume that the Texans wouldn't sign another big-ticket guy as a d-line starter to avoid overconcentration of their cap funds at that position, though I could be wrong.
Great...a damn Okie Hey, if he performs I will look past that, but it will be hard. One note, I don't think that Mike Williams will drop that far just because he didn't play this year. Look for him to go somewhere in the top 10. At least that is what my sources tell me
Last year's draft was much deeper than this year's, unfortunately. Still, I think we can get a quality player at #13. If Barron slips to #13, I say take him. He could do wonders for our O-line. Elton Brown would be nice, as it would force Chester "false start" Pitts into a reserve role. Jammal Brown from OU is pretty good too. However, I think that the staff would have hard time passing on Antrel Rolle if he's there at #13 (highly unlikely). The TSN mock draft is terribly inaccurate. No way does Leinart slip past #1 after his Orange Bowl performance. He's got size, skills, and the moxie of a franchise QB. Guys like Vince Carter and Donte Nicholson may not even be picked on the first day.
Where would Cody play? He seems too small to play DL. Is he quick enough to play OLB? Can he drop into coverage? Damn 3-4 defense...
