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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Aug 30, 2005.

  1. Castor27

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    Thursday at 6:30 on KTRK
     
    #1 Castor27, Aug 30, 2005
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  2. rrj_gamz

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    Ok, this is much better...Still #1...Honestly, the Texans haven't looked good so far and yeah, yeah, I know its preseason, but still, be consistent and put a decent drive together from start to finish...

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  3. leroy

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    Well...that certainly didn't happen. They have look freaking awful all night in every phase of the game.

    I don't think I can handle another season of...

    1st down...run
    2nd down...run & lose 3 yards
    3rd down...duh...pass (hopefully to someone actually related to the Texans in any meaningful way)
    (in case of simple incompletion) 4th down...punt
     
  4. SwoLy-D

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    :mad: YESSSS!!!! 1st down!!!! C'mon, now... at least get ONE score. PLEAASSEEEE

    :mad: ¡¡¡¡ESO!!!! Primera y diez. Vamos, vamos... al menos UNA anotación.
     
  5. TigerBait

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    What do you expect, same ol' predictable Palmer.
     
  6. SwoLy-D

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    DAMN IT, why isn't RAGONE before BANKS? :mad:
    So much more mobile... so much smarter... stronger... WFL MVP... c'mon... he's way better.

    At least he got us out of the 0 hole tonight. Does anyone agree with me?
     
  7. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Oh wow. Texans got hammered. Showing no signs of life.
     
  8. The Real Shady

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    If the Texans play anything like this during the regular season then Capers has to go. The honeymoon is over.
     
  9. solid

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    Will football ever really return to Houston? UH is getting hammered too. It is preseason, but, wow, the Texans look like crap.
     
  10. Fatty FatBastard

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    David Carr 1-4, 2 INT, 4 yards total.

    Even Spencer Tillman was watching Rogone and commented on how Carr needs to focus on more than one or two receivers if he wants any pass protection.

    He's too easy to read for defenses.
     
  11. The Cat

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    To put this in perspective a little bit, Ben Roethlisberger was one of the best quarterbacks in the league last season. In this preseason, he has no touchdowns and a passer rating of under 30. I highly doubt he's in very much trouble.

    It's the preseason. Teams don't want to show their schemes to have them available on tape for other teams to study. Teams don't want to put in all their protection or run routes over the middle (for example) for fear of injuries. It's always nice if you can establish momentum, but in the end, it's nothing to worry about. We played even worse than this in the preseason of '03... then went out on the road and beat a very good Miami team in the opener.

    Also, for what it's worth, fatty, Ragone had the advantage of not going up against Tampa's outstanding first-string defense (best in the league against the pass last year). Ragone wouldn't have had time to go through his progressions if he had to take the pressure from up front that Carr did.
     
  12. gucci888

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    We've played absolutely terrible this preseason, hopefully we'll snap out of it fast.
     
  13. Fatty FatBastard

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    This was the last preseason game. It was the dress rehearsal. I understand where you are coming from with schemes, but we were blown out in our last two games with Carr in there.

    4 passes, 2 interceptions, 1 completion for 4 yards. That tells me there is something wrong, schemes or no schemes.

    FWIW, I certainly hope you're right, and that we're able to clobber Buffalo. I just feel that Carr is an average QB at best, and that he's looked downright miserable in his last two games, preseason or not.
     
  14. The Cat

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    Eh, this week wasn't the dress rehearsal. The last preseason games are the worst of all... most of the other good quarterbacks whose teams played tonight (Brady, McNabb, Brooks, etc.) didn't even play at all. The third game is the dress rehearsal... granted, we looked bad in that too, but Carr was better than he was tonight.

    He's looked miserable, but as I said, so have a lot of other quarterbacks. Roethlisberger, for one, has been even worse. It's too early to get concerned. It's possible he'll only be an average QB, but in terms of rating, he was already in the top half of the league, and that was with horrible protection. I think it's likely he'll at least improve at least a little as he matures and the line gets better (it can't get worse), but anything is possible.
     
  15. Fatty FatBastard

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    Fair enough. Here's to me shutting up if we win next week and b****ing about him if we don't (unless it's obviously not his fault.)
     
  16. Blatz

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    Maybe this is one of those, it's going to get worse before it gets better things and it just got worse.



    I've seen preseason games before, I'm not going to cry. I will admit that I'm a little nervous for the first time. "The honeymoon's over!"......I'm so sick of that catch phrase.
     
  17. The Real Shady

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    Houston.... We've got a problem.
     
  18. dskillz

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    I really am not too worried about things. it is preseason and even Big Ben looked like crap this year. The Pats preseason of the year they won Super Bowl 37, they lost ever preseason game and looked like crap doing so and started the season getting blown out in Buffalo. Now let us start the season 0-3, then I am going to start getting worried.

    Don't misunderstand me, I would rather the team kick ass and take names during the preseason as well, but I would rather save those wins and schemes for the regular season.
     
  19. swilkins

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    If Capers does not improve on last year, he should go. I'm sick of hearing that Caper's is methodical and focuses on preventing mental mistakes.

    Our special teams coach is the only coach that has been pretty consistent.

    Between Palmer's conservative predictable play calling, Carr's inability (in the last 2 pre-season games) on making the smart throw and our WR missing their routes or dropping catchable passes, I'm lost. It would appear that the team has regressed a little. These are all mental mistakes and that is not part of Caper's philosophy, so I think it starts at the head coach.

    BTW - I am usually very patient with pre-season games, but these last 2 have been real stinkers.

    Here's to hoping we start the regular season off on a positive start.

    Cheers
     
  20. leroy

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    For someone they were considering not bringing back, Corey Bradford is seeing a little too much of the passes. A lot of the 1st team mistakes in the last 2 weeks were his horrid route running. Carr isn't making the best decisions right now, which isn't helping. That decision should be...don't throw it to Bradford.
     

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