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Tell me again why we traded KT?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Apr 19, 2003.

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  1. DaDakota

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    PPG 10.1
    RPG 8.0
    BPG 0.4
    .465% fg

    Why did we trade a way a player who has better stats then both of our PF?

    KT was is going to break out and be a very solid 15-10 guy, and we need one of those so bad.

    Sometimes I think the Rockets braintrust is lacking the brains part, and that makes me lose the trust part too.

    GRRRRR !!! I want KT back.

    DD
     
  2. LegendZ3

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    coz he broke our plays
     
  3. Cipherous

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    He was the monkey wrench, whenever he got the ball. It was guaranteed that he was taking that shot. Besides, we didn't know that Griffin wasn't going to step up. We expected Griffin to bust out after KT got traded.
     
  4. JBIIRockets

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    Because he disappears in the crucial moments of ballgames, he's not as good an FT shooter as Mo Taylor, and with the exception of a game in New Orleans, he flat out sucked as a road player against the quality teams of the NBA.

    Da, don't you remember how many lay-ups he blew?
     
  5. DaDakota

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    I disagree that he broke the plays, he played harder then any other PF on the Rockets.

    KT would have been a great fit here, MoT or EG should have gone.

    I guarantee if we had KT we would not be out of the playoffs, but rather making noise IN the playoffs.

    DD
     
  6. DaDakota

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    JB,

    He is just starting to peak, and he shot 75% from the FT line this year.Look it up

    KT is better then MoT or EG, he is simply a hustle player....who has found his niche in the NBA...Mo and EG are still smoking their niche.

    DD
     
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    He was an engery guy. But too small to play PF, and too big/slow to play SF.
    Plus, to play SF, you need a shot. His best game was inside getting rebounds and put backs. But NOT at PF. We didn't need that. WE needed a shooter at the 3 to bandage our shooting woes.

    The guy wasn't 6'7". He seemed more like 6'5". A tad bit taller than Mobes. He was a tweener. And in the days of 7'ft SF. He wasn't a good fit for the Rox.
     
  8. DaDakota

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    David S,

    How tall is Ben Wallace, and he plays center.

    How tall was Barkley?

    How tall is Allen Iverson?

    Yes he is undersized for a PF, but with Ming and Cato at Center he does not have to be 6'10"...he plays good position defense and can hit a mid range jumper and can dribble and pass......

    I think getting rid of him was a mistake.

    DD
     
  9. RunninRaven

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    Ming and Cato are the reason why we didn't need a better rebounding PF like KT. KT's contract was much easier to move, and SOMEBODY had to be moved. Also, Taylor can shoot, dribble and pass just as well if not better than KT. About the only thing KT does better is hustle and play defense.
     
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    It was clear that one of the three had to go. It's way too early to give up on Griffin, and Taylor was coming off an injury and was untradable with his salary.
    At the time, Glen Rice was injured, and we got more out of Griffin and Posey than we would have from Thomas and Morris.
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  11. DaDakota

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    Raven,

    I know one had to go...I just think the wrong one went.

    At least KT can swing between the 3 and the 4, neither Mo nor Griffin can do that.

    Also....Mo did not shoot as well as KT this year.....and he is coming off a major injury...

    I think KT would have been a better fit....how many times did you see KT finish a fast break with a slam? Now contrast that to how many times Mo ran on a break.

    You get the picture?

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    Dakota,
    Who would take Mo Taylor from us?

    He just missed an entire season to injury, who would take him and his contract?

    EG has more potential than KT, you don't throw away a player you traded 3 1st round picks for just after 1+ seasons...

    KT was the obvious person to trade, even if we did keep him, he would have left once his contract ended because the Rockets would never sign a 3rd PF to a long term deal.

    The Rockets had no real choice, so they traded him for James Posey who helped us out a lot at the SF spot...
     
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    KT was a terrible fit with the Rockets. Unfortunately, so are Griffin and Taylor. Them sucking doesn't make KT taller or pry the ball out of his hands. KT also refused to be a good dog and play the three, like Rudy planned at the start the season. He was intent on forcing the issue and he did. Bye.
     
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    Of course the wrong one went, if you mean KT went instead of Griffin. Griffin is the one that is turning out to be the bust, not Mo. If you are referring to shooting percentage as a way of saying that KT shot better than Taylor, then I guess that may be true, I haven't looked at the stats. But KT is certainly not a better outside shooter than Taylor. KT also doesn't have quit the post up game that Mo has. KT will get out of control and throw up wild shots. He also never passes the ball out of the post (something Mo does well)...KT only passes well when he is driving to the basket.

    As for the fast break, I don't think that is at all Mo's fault, and I certainly don't remember KT getting any inordinate amount of slams on this team. In fact, NO one got many fast break slams on this team outside of Posey, and that is just because he is so fast and athletic.

    And the point that others made earlier in this thread is valid, I feel. Kenny was terrible about slowing the offense down. If he got the ball between the 3 point line and the free throw line, he had a terrible tendency to fake a shot attempt, juke, fake, juke fake, and he would just wiggle there for 10 seconds before he did anything (80% of the time, it was a long jumper). It was almost as frustrating to watch that as to watch Moochie or Steve go on one of their dribbling fits. Mo doesn't have this problem.
     
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    Funny how all that one on one stuff went away when he got to Philly and is simply a good player now.

    I guess Rudy was asking KT to do the one on one crap...shame on him.

    DD
     
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    Of course! In RUDY's system it is all one on one. In Larry Brown's system the team plays as a TEAM! ;)
     
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    Posey was the best thing going for the Rockets besides Yao. I do miss some of the things that KT brought to the floor, but the trade to acquire JP was a good move in my opinion.

    Even if he does not sign with the Rockets this offseason because KT would have been gone this summer as well.
     
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    What does it matter WHY he was doing it? The point was he was doing it, and he wasn't stopping, so whether it was Rudy's fault or KT's, it was good enough reason for us to get rid of him because it sure as hell wasn't working for our team.
     
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    I disagree with his numbers, I'd say alot of those are due to being able to play in the weak east. I'm pretty sure Taylor would look pretty darn good playing against lesser oponents in the east. Thomas got to escape having to actually play the best in the league. or at least not playing them nearly as much. I think it's pretty funny to say Thomas is better than Taylor, maybe in the 1st half of the season, before Taylor fully recovered but I'm certain that next season Mo will come back even stronger. You can say Thomas hustles more but towards the end of the season Mo was putting MO effort into rebounding. Taylor's defense isn't that great but neither is KT's, other than quick hands he was just an under sized guy. And as for stating undersized people who did well, such as Barkely or Wallace, they are just special exceptions which I don't feel that Thomas will ever be.

    As for if I would rather have kept Griffin over Thomas, probably so because the potential which EG has.
     
  20. Sofine81

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    KT Who? Oh yeah I remember now, he was that "black hole" you passed the ball to him and it didnt come out, till either he made a very good spin move or took a horrible shot!
     

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