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Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by RocketSiv, Jun 21, 2000.

  1. RocketSiv

    RocketSiv Member

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    First off, anybody with any insight on what the Rockets are leaning towards-MManal, Doc Rocket, Clutch anybody-I have seen a few things saying it is either Johnson or Moiso. Now is that because they don't expect Mike Miller to be there anymore or were they just not impressed by him? Okay onto my other questions. I didn't get my usual fill of college basketball this year so I don't know a whole lot about the players this year.

    Anyways Moiso-I have actually just began to become intrigued by him recently, mainly from what I read from you'll. Moiso-has an inside/outside game-correct? Does he have NBA 3-point range and is his post game legit enough to be an inside threat? What about his speed, he runs the court and is fast right?Athleticism? How is his defense? He is 6-10-now can he play small forward or will he play mainly the four position. Finally does he have star potential?

    Out of Miller, Moiso, and Johnson who are the Rockets going to select if all three are still available?

    Johnson-I know he is a transition player. He has plenty of potential. Now from what I understand he has an outside shot but will definately need to improve his shot? What about his defense? I presume it is good with his size and long arms. However I read something that he lacks intensity-is this true?

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  2. oeilpere

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    If it is info you seek you cannot go wrong by checking this place out: http://www.foxsports.com/nba/draft/2000/players.sml

    Rockets priority per published reports and media interviews with CD and RT seem to indicate:

    A starting quality (or close to starting) PF is what they want: Swift, Martin, Fizer, Moiso and in that order.

    They cannot ignore the SF either: Miles, Miller, DerMarr Johnson in that order.

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  3. thacabbage

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    RocketSiv:

    Anyways Moiso-I have actually just began to become intrigued by him recently, mainly from what I read from you'll. Moiso-has an inside/outside game-correct? Does he have NBA 3-point range and is his post game legit enough to be an inside threat? What about his speed, he runs the court and is fast right?Athleticism? How is his defense? He is 6-10-now can he play small forward or will he play mainly the four position. Finally does he have star potential?

    [*]No, he has an outside game, but no inside game.
    [*]No, he doesn't have NBA 3-point range.
    [*]No, his post game is not legit enough to make him an inside threat. He seems to shy away from the contact.
    [*]Yes, he has speed and athleticism.
    [*]He is a horrible defender and this is what I dislike most about Moiso. With his combination of size and athletic ability, he should be a force on the defensive end (in college). However, he is very below average, and this is because he doesn't have the desire to be a good defender.
    [*]I think he'll mainly be a tweener. Even though he is quick for a power forward, he doesn't have the footspeed to play small forward.
    [*]No, I don't think he will ever be a star because he doesn't have that mental aspect that you need. He seems to lack confidence and desire.

    My final thought on Jerome Moiso is this: "Don't pick him." Alot of people are making a big deal over the recent news that he measured at 7'0. Big deal! It's not like that helped him block any shots!

    Out of Miller, Moiso, and Johnson who are the Rockets going to select if all three are still available?

    Johnathon Feigen said this morning that there even could be a slight possibility that Darius Miles slips to #9. Highly unlikely (as I can't see him falling past 2 Chicago picks), but if everyone falls in place correctly, there could be a slight chance.

    If everything plays out as indicated Martin, Swift, and Fizer are locks in the Top-8. Mihm and Pryzbilla are pretty much sure things in the Top-8 as well. Any 3 players of Miles, Johnson, Alexander, and Mike Miller will be in the Top-8. That means that one of those guys will fall to the Rockets. If the Cavs reach on Iakovos, then the Rockets can select between any of those two. Feigen also said that the Rockets have received many calls about the #9, because there is such a good chance Courtney Alexander will fall. IMHO, if Johnson and Miller are both taken, rather than selecting Moiso, it would be a better idea to select Alexander and then deal him. Stay away from Moiso.

    Johnson-I know he is a transition player. He has plenty of potential. Now from what I understand he has an outside shot but will definately need to improve his shot? What about his defense? I presume it is good with his size and long arms. However I read something that he lacks intensity-is this true?

    I'm not too big on DerMarr Johnson, but if he was there at #9 (the Bulls or Cavs could take him) I would happily take him. He can shoot the ball very well, and he has good handles. I've also seen him make some plays in the open court. A lot of people are comparing him to Tracy McGrady because of the similar bodies, but they're nothing alike. DJ is athletic, but nothing like the "out of this world" athleticisim McGrady has. Johnson is not a good defender, so that should be of some concern. Then again, it's not like he's Jerome Moiso or anything.



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  4. MManal

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    Moiso-has an inside/outside game-correct? Does he have NBA 3-point range and is his post game legit enough to be an inside threat? What about his speed, he runs the court and is fast right?Athleticism? How is his defense? He is 6-10-now can he play small forward or will he play mainly the four position. Finally does he have star potential?

    Moiso has the makings of an inside-outside game. His game in the post still needs more polish (a pet move would be nice) and at this point his face up game is actually better than his post game. Jerome Moiso is very good in the open court, very athletic, catches and finishes alley-oop plays in transition. You would think with his excellent physical tools 6-10 to 7-0 (Chicago camp measurement) in height, long arms, excellent hops and athleticism that he would be a really good defender. However, he does not commit enough effort on the defensive end and has underachieved in that aspect of his game. His shooting range extends out to about 18 ft, he does not have NBA 3 pt range. Moiso does not have the ball handling ability to play the SF spot, thus I think he will play mostly PF and if he bulks up a little center, but PF is his main position. The star question is very subjective. His college coach Steve Lavin seems to think he has star potential but others do not. He definitely has all the physical tools to become a premier PF in this league, but it all depends on how hard he works on his game and how committed he is to fulfilling his potential. He will definitely need to get stronger, develop more low post abilities and commit more to the defensive side of the ball.

    Johnson-I know he is a transition player. He has plenty of potential. Now from what I understand he has an outside shot but will definately need to improve his shot? What about his defense? I presume it is good with his size and long arms. However I read something that he lacks intensity-is this true?

    DerMarr Johnson definitely possesses the capability to play in the transition game. He is a good floor runner and has an excellent vertical leap at 40 inches. He does not have the complete all out open court explosion and dunking of Darius Miles, but he is still pretty solid in this area. Coming out of HS, DerMarr was billed as a pure shooter. At Cincinnat, he underachieved in this area which has caused people to question his perimeter shot. This is where it becomes subjective again. The guys mechanics look good, and there were games where he simply shot the lights out, but there were also games where he looked off. The question teams will have to ask themselves, were those off games b/c of zone defenses and such? I personally think they are but others have varying opinions. On the defensive end, I personally think he is underrated. He is not the terrible defensive player that some make him out to be. He has the long arms and athletic ability you pointed out along with very good lateral movement. The intensity question is also very accurate. He has a tendency to float in games and not take over which he clearly has the talent to do. You would also think that there would be no questions on his defense since his physical tools are so good. However, his lack of intensity at that end has brought about those questions, and this is where the subjective part comes in.

    Both of these players have underachieved in college, and Rudy loves to select those types and work with them. My opinion is that DerMarr is a better basketball talent than Moiso but both still have a lot to work on improve. Whichever team drafts them will have to patient and let them develop.

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