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"Teacher too drunk to recall sex"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Grizzled, Jan 29, 2002.

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  1. Grizzled

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    In some sort of sick way, I'm glad that things like this happen other places. Makes Americans look better perhaps.

    It's sad and sick though. Wish it didn't happen anywhere.

    And some people would argue that things like this didn't happen before, but it's not true. Scandals have been going on for centuries. It wasn't until the creation of modern media and stricter laws that these things have come into the spotlight.

    The teacher said she had "feelings" for the boy and that you can't help how you feel. She also had sex with one AND his brother. I'm thinking these feelings are purely lust. It's called being aroused. It doesn't mean you have sex with young boys!
     
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    I agree that it is wrong and sick and so on...and from what the article says about her "feelings" and her emotional acceptance among the 15 yrs old girls, she probably has some mental problems. But.......it's not like it's the worst thing in the world. I mean yeah, the parents probably have a huge complaint, but i don't really think that when these 15yr old boys grow up that they will be totally truamatized of anything. I could be wrong, and also, I'm not saying this isn't a bad thing....just not tooooooo bad.

    Disclaimer: I am drunk. If I said anything out of line here, I apologize ahead of time.
     
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    No, it's not that big of a deal. And sex is not regarded by many people (and it seems to me men usually, but I could be wrong) don't really care about sex. It's not some huge deal to everyone. Most 15 year old boys seem to WANT to have sex...call me crazy though ;)
     
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    I don't know, but I think these 15-year olds are really proud of having scored with their teacher, so I don't think they are traumatized AT ALL...on the contrary...

    As for her, though...quite embarrassing. :eek:
     
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    What do the <b>boys</b> say?
     
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    "Alright! *highfive*" probably.
     
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    When I was 15, there was a teacher I wanted to nail and if I had, I doubt that I would be mentally scarred or whatever. It isnt right for the teacher to play pin cussion with her students but guys look at sex differently than girls. If anything, they are proud that they got some and it isnt going to be a big deal. That teacher needs some help though. Why in the hell would she want some 15 yo kids? Thats pretty gross.
     
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    just wondering, if this had been a male teacher and male students would you feel differently?
     
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    Sounds like rape to me. I also think some of you are seriously underplaying the possible psychological impact on these young boys.
     
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    Yes because that is gross.
     
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    was highly recommended by her teachers at the university

    gee i can't imagine why.
     
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    Psychological impact? You mean the feelings of pride and accomplishment that they will take with them well into adulthood? It's one thing for a 15-year old to score with a 26-year old - that's a major ego booster. It's something else to do it to a teacher.

    The kids will be fine. The teacher, on the other hand...
     
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    ah the intellectual response
     
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    I knew you would like it.
     
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    Damm... why couldn't I have teachers like that :eek:


    Yes...also if it were a male teacher and a 15 yo female it would be worse.
    I guess the difference in perception..is that a 15 yr old male wanting to get it on with an older woman is a common fantasy among most males.

    Still...in all three instances it should be considered statutory rape.
     
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    Young Jedi, things are not always as they seem. Sexual assault is sexual assault.

    http://www.ncptsd.org/facts/specific/fs_male_sexual_assault.html

    What are some problems related to sexual trauma in boys and men?

    Particularly when the assailant is a woman, the impact of sexual assault upon men may be down played by professionals and the general public. However, men who have early sexual experiences with adults report problems in various areas at a much higher rate than those who do not. For example:

    Emotional Disorders – Men and boys who were sexually assaulted are more likely to suffer from PTSD, other anxiety disorders, and depression as compared to those who were never abused sexually.

    Substance Abuse – Men who have been sexually assaulted have a high incidence of alcohol and drug use. For example, the probability for alcohol problems in adulthood is about 80% for men who have experienced sexual abuse, as compared to 11% in men who have never been sexually abused.

    Encopresis – One study revealed that a portion of boys who suffer from encopresis (bowel incontinence) were sexually abused.

    Risk Taking Behavior – Exposure to sexual trauma can lead to risk-taking behavior during adolescence, such as running away and other delinquent behaviors. Having been sexually assaulted also makes boys more likely to engage in behaviors that put them at risk for contracting the HIV virus (such as having sex without using condoms).
     
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    Timing....your article doesn't prove jack squat. It says so itself; 86 percent of perpetrators are men who prey on those boys. No offense to Outlaw, but as highly as I regard my gay friends, they simply don't turn me on. I like women. And therefore, if I was "raped" by a man when I was 15, I feel strongly that it would leave me emotionally scarred. On the other hand, if I was "raped" by my ( a little bit chunky, but not completely unattractive 26 year old) female teacher, I'd probably feel pretty good about myself. ESPECIALLY IF I CONSENTED.

    I'm with treeman on this.

    I don't give a rat's ass how un-PC it is to say so; if those boys willingly engaged in this conduct with the teacher, then they ARE high-fiving. They scored, and right or wrong, they did what our society encourages them to do.
     
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    I had an interesting scenario when I was in high school North of Houston. One of my friends began having an affair with the choir director our junior year. At the beginning there was LOTs of high fives, envy and "dude, do you think I could have a turn?" sort of comments. She was fiiiine.

    The affair went on through the summer and began to get verrry sticky. She professed her love for him and told him that once he graduated she would leave her husband and run away with him. The situation was too much for a 17 year old to handle..especially when his parents found her love letters, beat him nearly to death and called her husband for a "chat".

    The affair should have ended thier but the teacher became obsessed with my friend and began sending letter after letter...each one more passionate and disturbed than the last. My friend became very distraught...his parents were ashamed that he had slept with his teacher and would not help him for fear that the family would lose "face". The teachers husband was blind with love and could not face the fact that his wife was cheating on him...with a freaking 17 year old.

    At this time their were six people that knew what was happening; my friend, me, The Chior director, her husband, his parents and the assistant Choir director who had walked in on them bumpin' uglies in one of the practice rooms at School.

    When our Senior year started, my friend was hell bent on telling her to leave him alone. On the morning of the first day of school he confronted her and told her to leave him alone. She went ballistic and threatened to ruin any chance of him going to college. Later that day he was suprisingly picked up from school by his dad...he never came back to school again.

    The Choir director called his Dad and said that he had threatened to go to the principle and spill his guts about the whole affair. His Dad and her decided it was best that they keep it quiet. So, my friend's dad took off of work, rushed up to school, withdrew my friend from school, took him home and beat him severely.

    The rest of the story is very sad. My friend managed to sneak out of work one day(he was under constant watch) and meet me at a church parking lot next door. We drove to a payphone where he called the principle and told him the whole story. After which I gave him some clothes and drove him to his Mom's house far away. That was the last time I saw him.

    My friends testimony(he later came back and testified in person) and the Asst. Chior directors testimony damned the teacher...she was put on suspension then forced to resign. The story was all the buzz for a while..but it never broke. The school district, with agreeances from the Chior Director and my friends parents, decided it would do more harm than good to make it public.

    I guess this is a vvveerrrry long winded way of saying that there can be severe reprocutions to situations like these. In this case, my friend was emotionally and physically destroyed. We passed messages for a while...and last i heard he was still trying to put things back together.

    The shame of it is that he had a beautiful voice and would have gotten a full ride...but word travels fast...and he never got a shot. I guess she made true of her last promise to him.

    Truly tragic.
     
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    Wha huh!? Where does it say since 86% is perpetrated by men that the other 14% perpetrated by women has no effect on young boys? I'm pretty certain it doesn't say that anywhere. Maybe you could point out that passage for me.

    BTW, a 15 year old has no right to consent to ANYTHING. There is a reason 15 year olds are protected by the law and the law applies the same to boys and girls because there is no magical boy thing that makes them any more capable of handling adult issues like sex and alcohol anymore than girls are capable.
     
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