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Tea Party Emails

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rimrocker, Apr 12, 2010.

  1. rimrocker

    rimrocker Member

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    I'm shocked. No, not at the racism. No, not at the stupidity. I'm shocked at the beastiality.


    Incidentally, here's a post from 2004 where this guy is mentioned. I guess W started the Tea Party?

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=1447640&highlight=paladino#post1447640
     
  2. bnb

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    You have to wonder what kind of a buffoon would forward those emails in October 2009....and then enter a high profile political race 6 months later.

    More money then sense.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    Read that article and look at the responses from the Tea Party. Again there is no effort to rid their ranks of racists. Instead they ignore the racism, and continue to embrace this kind candidate and his racist doings.

    Until the Tea Party starts to rectify the situation, they don't deserve the respect of anyone.
     
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    Except from Basso and Traitor Jorge
     
  5. bnb

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    Tea Partiers deserve ridicule for backing this guy. But responses in the article were from Paladino and his campaign manager. No actual tea partiers were interviewed for this piece.
     
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  6. Invisible Fan

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    Anyone remember the Know Nothing party?

    They made off with a great haul.
     
  7. glynch

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    I thought the picture of Obama and Michelle in 60's black exploitation dress was funny. Just because he is black does not mean we can't make fun of him.
     
  8. uolj

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    These aren't really "Tea Party Emails", they're emails from some guy who is being "backed by the Tea Parties" whatever that means. Seems like flimsy evidence for painting the Tea Party movement as racist or filled with racists.

    It basically highlights another hypocritical "conservative values" candidate. Unless I live in New York my reaction is mostly a shrug.
     
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  9. FranchiseBlade

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    I guess I inferred too much. Because it said the e-mails were exchanged with political and business associates I thought they would be tea baggers and that possibly the campaign manager was too. My bad.
     
  10. rimrocker

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    From the article...
    So, they are emails from one guy to a bunch of "political" associates. Strange how none of them blew the whistle on this guy. Odd how only one person asked him to tone things down.

    The guy is a Tea Party-backed candidate. One could infer, particularly from his history in NY politics, that the people he was emailing were sympathetic to his views and supported the actions of the Tea Party. Whether or not they were official Tea Baggers is kind of a moot point since there is not really an official Tea Party.

    The best case for you is that the leadership of the Tea Party in NY condoned or acquiesced to this kind of behavior. The worst case is that they supported this guy precisely because of his behavior. I'm leaning towards the latter with perhaps a qualifier that he had a lot of money... but that makes it worse in some respects.
     
  11. uolj

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    There is nothing here to link this to the Tea Party other than the fact that the Tea Party backs him. And since, as you said, there is no official Tea Party, I don't even know what that entails.

    How do you know the emails were sent to Tea Party leadership in New York? The emails were sent to associates of his, not necessarily all associates of his.

    I'm not saying that your charge isn't true, I'm saying there is no real evidence here to back it up.

    By the way, he's a Republican candidate. Why is the thread title not "Republican Emails"?
     
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  12. rimrocker

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    Words fail.

    Which is why I wrote my last post the way I did. I do recognize that it is possible a politician might send racist emails and horse sex videos to people who don't agree with him. I just don't think it very likely that this was the case.

    It works either way.
     
  13. uolj

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    "Tea Party Emails" implies the emails were from the Tea Party. There is no evidence whatsoever that these emails were sent or received by people who run the Tea Party, nor is there evidence that they were part of Tea Party business. Perhaps I'm not explaining it well, but it seems like an obvious point.

    There are two issues here. First, as I just mentioned the thread title implies the emails were from the Tea Party or amongst its members as part of the business of the Tea Party movement. I'd assume you'd agree that there is no evidence for such an implication.

    The other issue is that you think that because these emails were tolerated by whomever received them, and because you think it is likely that Tea Party people received them, that the backing of the candidate who sent them by the Tea Party is akin to the people in the movement condoning such behavior.

    My questions for that claim are this:

    1. How do you know Tea Party people were aware of these emails?
    2. Assuming some people involved with the Tea Party movement were aware of the emails, where is the evidence that this is endemic to the Tea Party movement rather than an individual case with a few people who looked the other way at one guy's poor taste?
    3. Do you believe that anybody who doesn't take offense to the examples presented the article must be racist?

    Again, I'm not trying to say that the Tea Party movement doesn't have racists, nor am I saying that they don't have an above average number of racists. Other evidence suggests they do. But this situation does little to bolster that claim. I'm surprised you're defending it so vigorously.
     
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  14. rimrocker

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    Classy...
     
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    yes, insofar as the tea party was originally started by ron paul supporters as a protest against his big government, liberal spending policies.

    and this is further proof that all republicans are weird.
     
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    I've not been vigorous at all. I just find it funny that the Tea baggers are backing the wrong horse.
     
  17. Invisible Fan

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    I'm betting TeaBaggers are stupid enough to know better. Which isn't an improvement from supporting an outright racist.
     
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    If this is in fact from the tea party movement this is not a good look
     
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    True, but that doesn't mean we can make fun of him for being black, and that's what that picture does.
     
  20. GladiatoRowdy

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    I disagree, "Pimp and Ho" parties are pretty mainstream these days. I understand how some people might take offense, but I agree with Glynch, the picture is funny.
     

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