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T-Wolves Collapse

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by A_3PO, Dec 20, 2006.

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  1. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

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    Anybody see this? Garnett sounded pretty ticked off after the game. Being outscored 34-7 in the 4th quarter right after losing out on an AI trade has got to be a downer. ESPN's write-up even had him taking a small shot at Dwane Casey.

    Maybe this is near the breaking point for KG. I betcha he gets traded next summer.
     
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    Doesn't need to, he has a player option. I think Bulls have the cap space to give him his max contract too.
     
  3. Luckyazn

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    So shouldnt the Twolves try to trade Garnett this season if he can leave this summer? and end up with nuthing
     
  4. RAID

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    semi-related: NBATV's Rick Kamla basically disowned the T-Wolves tonight on his show (Fantasy Basketball). he was a big T-Wolves / Garnett fan and said he can no longer support the team after they refused to include Randy Foye in the AI trade and turn around and play him for 12 minutes a game.

    i couldn't imagine having my own show on NBATV and disowning my team in front of millions
     
  5. tigermission1

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    Doubtful. KG is like a helpless/pathetic girlfriend that's beaten by her bf every night, yet still keeps coming back for more, because she doesn't know any better/lost her dignity and self-respect.

    It's all up to KG, he keeps refusing to pressure the organization to either improve significantly or move him elsewhere.

    He's the only one to blame for his situation, I stopped feeling sorry for him...
     
  6. Luckyazn

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    KG is not a "main" guy player anymore to win a championship

    You need to team him with a KOBE or AI


    KG is not clutch or a go to guy but he's everything in between
     
  7. Kim

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    LOLOLOLOL :D

    I've been saying all along that Casey is one of the worst coaches in the NBA. People gripe about JVG, and while he does deserve criticism, thank goodness we aren't stuck with an idiot like Casey. Minny is talented enough to make the playoffs.

    And Rick Kamla..LOLOL. I miss having NBAtv. That guy is on speed or something. I love his enthusiasm and he's been a huge Minny and KG fan for years. It must have been so painful/crazy for him to disown the T-Wolves, though he makes a great point though..you don't not trade for AI because of Foye and only play Foye 12 minutes.
     
  8. KellyDwyer

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    Whoa. This is the fourth-best defensive team in the NBA -- with Ricky Davis, Troy Hudson, Mike James, Mark Blount, and ****** Craig Smith getting big minutes. Casey has turned this into one of the best defensive teams in the NBA. He's got Marko Jaric playing great defense now.

    It's not Casey's fault he has 14 different 6-2 shooting guards to find minutes for.
     
  9. BenignDMD

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    What happened to my arm? Well.......I ran into a doorknob then fell down the stairs, twice.
     
  10. Mordo

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    And what was up with Mike James?
    He missed 4 of 5 shots to score 2 points in the 4th quarter collapse.

    KG and MJ stunk in the 4th.
     
  11. Kim

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    Okay, I give him some credit for them being a defensive juggernaut, but how hard is it when you have Kevin Olajuwon Garnett covering most of the court. It's like having Deion Sanders on your defense. Mike James has always shown defensive effort. Ricky Davis has an athletes body. Mark Blount is really tall. ****** Smith has nice instincts inside and has a knack for the ball. And the Wolves traded for Jaric in big part because he was a good defender...not saying that's an accurate statement, but that was the word all over the AP and ESPN reports.

    Offensively, Casey is inept. He's finally playing Mike James more after starting the season barely playing him at all. Hell, he ran post ups for Eddie Griffin coming out of timeouts!!! I lost all respect for his coaching abilities after seeing that happen last season.
     
  12. KellyDwyer

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    But he's not doing that this season.

    Ricky's always had an athlete's body. It took from 1998 until now to turn him into an actual defender.

    Mark Blount is tall. It took him until now to get him to actually play defense.

    Tired and gotta hit the hay: the offense may stink, but what do you expect from a bunch of low-efficiency jump shooters? Casey's defensive creation is the only thing keeping this team from a 29-win season. They're on pace for 38 wins, which isn't great, but is pretty awesome for the schedule they have to play. And that's after losing three straight.
     
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    Those were easy softballs for you to hit. That's why I wrote the body and tall comments. :) Their offense can be better. I really thought Mike James could be that 20ppg scorer he was in Toronto. He should play 40+ minutes because (this is off my memory) I think his efficiency is still really high. The predominant lineup needs to be : James, Foye, Jaric, KG, Blount...that really can work imo. Goodnight Kelly
     
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    Amazing how these guys can collapse even though they have none of Van Gundy, Alston, or Howard.

    They even have everyone's favorited mentally tough sharpshooting PG, Mike James.
    :rolleyes:
     
  15. GATER

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    The obvious core of the TWolves' collapse was their lack of $Ball players.
     
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    There was a lot of heat on TMac when he demanded a trade, there was a lot of heat on AI, and let's not forget the whole Kobe/Shaq/Clippers/Lakers thing a couple seasons back. KG doesn't want to go that path because he doesn't want to seem like one of the those "prima dona" players. Whatever happened to wanting to stay with one team your whole career and doing whatever it takes to help them win? I know it's rare but it's nothing to be blamed about.

    But I absolutely agree that KG needs to pressure the TWolves. Pairing him with AI would have made them instant contenders for a Championship, period. They could have made a very good package of Foye + a couple first rounders + fillers, and all they did was stand pat and watch him go to a conference rival.
     
  17. ShadyMcGrady

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    Foye is not the future. He isn't KG's future, at least. KG's not winning a championship, he lost his last chance when AI got traded to Denver.

    Why bank on Foye when you have an awesome talent in KG and AI on the block?? That was a dumb decision.

    KG doesn't want to leave the T-Wolves, fine, but he should have lobbied like a madman for AI. I'm not sure if he did or not but he should have.

    I'm pretty sure Philly would have taken Foye and/or Davis?, expiring contracts, and a couple first rounders for AI if they did the same to the Nuggets.

    What is the point in keeping Foye, it's not like he's going to do the Wolves ANY good when KG retires. Nor will those first round drafts they could have given up FOR A LONG TIME, IF they turn out to be any good.

    Maybe Minny tried and Philly didn't want it, but I can't see why not...
     
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    well atleast they had their hat in the ring...

    we didnt even think once about trying to get AI...

    and it looks like we.... wouldnt have had... to give up Tmac for AI....
     
  19. ShadyMcGrady

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    That's the part that bugs me the most.

    Imagine AI/T-Mac/Yao.

    That would be insane. I wouldn't mind giving up Head/Alston/WHOEVER for Iverson. That would have given us an avenue to get rid of Sura's contract and since we've declared a 'win now' mode, what are a couple of draft picks really worth?

    But then again Philly wanted a young talent at PG...so Rafer and Head wouldn't have cut it. :D
     
  20. Kim

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    Casey could be a defensive expert, but his offensive coaching is down right offensive. KG has lost total faith in Casey's offensive coaching ability...and I don't think it's defensive coaching as much as KG dominating the D everywhere, just my opinion.
     

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