The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth will have their latest ad debuted tonight on Hannity and Colmes. Rumors indicate that the ad will have to do with Kerry's trips to Paris in which he met with North Vietnamese leaders. This is obviously illegal if Kerry was on active duty at the time. The first few ads have been nothing short of brilliant. Ad #1 Kerry lying to get medals Ad #2 Kerry lying in front of Congress and betraying the troops and POWs still in active combat zones. Ad #3 Kerry lying about his Christmas in Cambodia Ad #4 Kerry betraying America by throwing his medals Ad #5 ?? Kerry committing treason by going to Paris? What the Swifties have been able to do is something to be studied. They have completely altered this race. In a time of war, being associated with your anti-war, protesting past (especially when it is as radical as Kerry's) is a total deathblow. While most people knew Kerry headed up VVAW, they didn't know the extent to which he lied and swindled to 1) cut his tour of duty short 2) embellish his record 3) Make a fraud out of the Purple Heart, Bronze Star and Silver State 4) Create a hostile environment for POWs and actually cause them to be tortured 5) Humiliate his 'band of brothers' by lying about fake atrocities 6) Create a hostile environment for Vietnam Vets upon their return home to the USA 7) Aide the enemy and meet with them secretly in foreign countries 8) openly mock Iwo Jima with the cover of his book and 9) Desecrate US military medals by hurling them at the Capitol. How on earth did Kerry get nominated, given this incredibly unpatriotic past? What were the liberals thinking, other than getting Howard Dean out of the front-runner role? Seriously, what a mistake. Can't wait for the ad....
Perhaps the ad has something to do with the Navy announcing that Kerry hasn't released all his records. SamFisher, you have quite a bit of egg on your face, as you have been maintaining for months that Kerry has released his records. It is obvious that he has not. It is also obvious that he won't sign the 180 form. http://www.cnsnews.com//ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\SpecialReports\archive\200409\SPE20040916a.html Navy Contradicts Kerry on Release of Military Records By Marc Morano CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer September 16, 2004 (CNSNews.com) - The U.S. Navy released documents Wednesday contradicting claims by Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry that all of his available military records have been released. The Navy, responding to a Freedom of Information Act request from the legal watchdog group Judicial Watch, also referred interested parties to Kerry's campaign web site for government military documents. Navy Personnel Command FOIA Officer Dave German wrote in an e-mail to Judicial Watch that the Navy "withheld thirty-one pages of documents from the responsive military personnel service records as we were not provided a release authorization." A "release authorization" would have to come from Kerry filling out and signing a Standard Form 180, something he has yet to do. A Standard Form 180 would authorize the complete release of all his military records. Judicial Watch filed Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests in August to obtain Kerry's military records. The official U.S. Navy response was received by Judicial Watch on Wednesday, the same day that Kerry told syndicated radio and MSNBC TV host Don Imus that "We've posted my military records that they sent to me, or were posted on my website. You can go to my website, and all my -- you know, the documents are there." When Imus pressed Kerry as to whether all of his documents were in fact included on the campaign website, Kerry responded, "To the best of my knowledge. I think some of the medical stuff may still be out there. We're trying to get it. "We released everything that they (the Navy) initially sent me," he added. Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton said the Navy's correspondence confirms that Kerry has not been forthright in releasing his military files. "It's written confirmation from the U.S. Navy that there are additional documents from Kerry's service record that have yet to be made publicly available," Fitton told CNSNews.com. Fitton called the Kerry campaign's contention that all of the candidate's military files have been released, "wrong." "They (the Kerry campaign) are either ignorant or misleading us. The simple solution is to authorize the release of all records related to his service," Fitton said. German in a letter dated September 15, also referred Judicial Watch to Kerry's campaign website for more information on Kerry's military records. "Numerous responsive U.S. Navy service record documents, as well as service record documents not subject to disclosure requirements under the FOIA, may be accessed at" the Kerry campaign's website applying to his military records, wrote German. "Right now we are in the 'Alice in Wonderland' situation, where the U.S. Navy is telling us to go to a campaign Internet site to get government FOIA documents," Fitton said. "I am not aware of any other instance where [a government agency] told us to go to a political website for documents," he added. "It's not a reliable repository of government documents." In additional correspondence with Judicial Watch dated Sept. 15, the Navy stated that it did not have a copy of Kerry's Discharge Certificate (DD Form 256N), adding that the Navy did not keep files of the certificate in its records. German wrote in a letter dated Sept. 15, "A copy of an honorable discharge certificate (DD256N) is not placed in the U.S. Navy Service record when issued." Jerome Corsi, co-author of the best-selling book "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry," told CNSNews.com the he was "surprised" the Navy did not have a copy of Kerry's discharge file. "That means [Kerry's] got it," Corsi said. "It goes against his contention that he has released everything that is in his possession, because certainly that form is in his possession." Corsi believes that the Navy's official response proves that "it's Kerry who is blocking the release of the [military] documents and nobody else." "What's Senator Kerry got to hide?" Corsi asked. "By not releasing these files, he is creating the impression that there is something there he doesn't want anybody to see. What is it?" Judicial Watch is also awaiting the U.S. Navy's response to its inquiry regarding Kerry's "Silver Star with combat V." The citation appears in Kerry's DD214 military form on his website, but according to military officials, no such medal exists. "Kerry's record is incorrect. The Navy has never issued a 'combat V' to anyone for a Silver Star," said a Naval official to reporter Thomas Lipscomb in an article for the August 27th Chicago Sun Times. According to the Sun Times article, "Naval regulations do not allow for the use of a 'combat V' for the Silver Star, the third-highest decoration the Navy awards. None of the other services has ever granted a Silver Star 'combat V,' either."
Show me yours and I'll show you mine. Judge Orders U.S. to Find Bush Records Thu Sep 16, 4:46 PM ET By MATT KELLEY, Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Pentagon (news - web sites) to find and make public by next week any unreleased files about President Bush (news - web sites)'s Vietnam-era Air National Guard service to resolve a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by The Associated Press. U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. handed down the order late Wednesday in New York. The AP lawsuit already has led to the disclosure of previously unreleased flight logs from Bush's days piloting F-102A fighters and other jets. Pentagon officials told Baer they plan to have their search complete by Monday. Baer ordered the Pentagon to hand over the records to the AP by Sept. 24 and provide a written statement by Sept. 29 detailing the search for more records. "We're hopeful the Department of Defense (news - web sites) will provide a full accounting of the steps it has taken, as the judge ordered, so the public can have some assurance that there are no documents being withheld," said AP lawyer David Schulz. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040916/ap_on_el_pr/bush_guard_records_1
mc mark - again, the difference is that Kerry is using his time spent in the military as a cornerstone of his campaign. Bush is not.
exactly. this SHOULD be a cornerstone of kerry's campaign. W is qualified to be commander in chief HOW EXACTLY, lol? This is just ridiculous. A few silly ads and the democrats are running from the issue. Kerry went to war for his country. W didn't. Kerry spent his WHOLE LIFE in public service. W didn't. How this ever became a winning issue for W is beyond me. democrats need to stop running, turn around and FIGHT, dammit.
Your argument might have held water 4 years ago, but W has built up substantial experience in the past 4 years, especially his performance after 9/11.
that's true. Hopefully after next time, he'll go after the right people. Afghanistan-correct, Iraq-incorrect, that's 50% right, we want to get Gdub back to his consistent score of 75% (although getting a C in Yale is like graduating in the bottom 15%). The American Presidency, Its a learning process!
It's good to be decisive, even if your decision is completely wrong. It's also good to stick to your wrong decision and continue to tout it as the right one. I'm still curious how the war in Iraq has helped the war on terror.
Afghanistan isn't even correct. It was started correctly, but the focus shifted and the people of Afghanistan and our initial mission have suffered as a result. So it's really only 25%.
The Houston Chronicle: Sept. 16, 2004, 2:51PM Report offers gloomy outlook for Iraq Reuters News Service WASHINGTON -- A U.S. intelligence report prepared for President Bush in July offered a gloomy outlook for Iraq through the end of 2005, with the worst scenario being a deterioration into civil war, government officials said today. The alarming possible future in Iraq as outlined in the classified National Intelligence Estimate is in line with the view of many analysts and members of Congress, and the Bush administration has slowly begun to shift away from an optimistic tenor to a more realistic one. As recently as Sept. 10, Bush said Iraqi national elections "will be held in January." Today, he said only that "national elections are scheduled for January" and noted "ongoing acts of violence" in Iraq. Still, he insisted to supporters in St. Cloud, Minn.: "This country is headed toward democracy." The National Intelligence Estimate, which is a compilation of views from various intelligence agencies, predicted three scenarios, from a tenuous stability to political fragmentation to the most negative assessment of civil war, officials said. "There doesn't seem to be much optimism," one official said. Another official added, "It's a difficult environment, a challenging environment." The assessment is based on the threat from an Iraqi insurgency that has been growing bolder in its attacks on Iraqis and American troops. Today, gunmen snatched two Americans and a Briton from a Baghdad house. White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the National Intelligence Estimate came from the CIA and said it was up to policy-makers to address the challenges outlined. However, he added, "The Iraqi people are proving that those scenarios are wrong by the progress that they are making to build a better future." The report was initiated under former CIA Director George Tenet, who stepped down in July. The conclusions were reached before the recent worsening of Iraq's security situation. Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has been harshly critical of Bush's decision to take the United States into war in Iraq. "It's time for him to start explaining what he's doing to stabilize the situation on the ground in Iraq. His wrong Iraq policies have taken America in the wrong direction and it's time for him to come clean with the public about what's going on," said a Kerry campaign spokesman, Phil Singer. A new television ad by a Kerry-supporting organization, Moveon.org, included the line: "George Bush got us into this quagmire. It will take a new president to get us out." U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan, in a report to the Security Council last week, said the persistent violence in Iraq would make it difficult to hold elections in January. A previous National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq in October 2002 has been highly criticized for its assessments that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, when no large stockpiles have been found since the U.S. invasion in March 2003. The 2002 report was a key piece of intelligence used by the Bush administration in making its case for going to war. It was later criticized for not taking into account dissenting views from some intelligence agencies about the status of Iraq's banned weapons programs. National Intelligence Estimates are produced by the National Intelligence Council, which reports to the CIA director. http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/nation/2798977
Yep, you know the convention where he was addressing the entire nation/world about why he should be president. he led it off with his little salute. But I see your point. It happened a couple months ago. Opinion polls have changed so I'm sure he's spinning a new story now on why he should be president. He chose his platform, it's not an issue the swift boaters are just grasping at.
