Then a gunman start shooting. Several people in the crowd begins to shoot back. Some stray bullets hit innocent people. Then people around people who were shot at begin to panic and shoot back. At the end, many people die. Have people who are against gun-free zone thought about this at all? [By the way, if you watched the Japanese movie "Battle Royale" before, then you will understand that this consequence is very likely to happen if everyone has gun.]
Using a scene from a movie as the basis for what might happen in real life probably isn't such a good idea.
suppose in a class of a hundred you have 2 or 3 people who happen to have a permit to carry a concealed handgun? the loss of life would probably be much lower. i thought about this after v-tech - if you get about 5-10 dudes to just bum rush the gunman he will kill a few of you, but there would still be enough to stop him. better than hiding cowering under a desk waiting to die.
I think to prevent this scenario from happening, it will be better to restrict the number of people having guns in such a classroom to designated people that everyone knows. But then isn't that the sorta the same system as what we have now except we probably hire more people to act as para-police?
Guns cause violence just like flies cause garbage. Trespassers will be shot and survivors will be shot again. Want to prevent the loss of life? RETURN FIRE
This has nothing to do with gun free school zones. I don't think having an area around the school for a few blocks where guns are not allowed would impact school shootings one way or another. Also, nobody has suggested that every HS student be allowed to pack heat at school. If you want to minimize damage at schools due to shootings, you have a few staff members with firearms training be allowed access to guns in the event that this happens.
Yeah that's what I think, too. But it seems to me people who want to get rid of gun-free zones actually want to arm every body with gun. I was using a scenario to show why this doesn't work.
Imagine you are doing nuclear testing and the island where you drop the bomb has iguanas on it. Then one of the iguanas mutates into a giant ****ing lizard and attacks the United States. That is what happened in the crappy Godzilla remake, so it would probably happen in real life. Do the people that think about the US having nuclear weapons ever consider that?
Gunman opens fire at N. Illinois U. hall DEKALB, Ill. - A man dressed in black opened fire with a shotgun and two handguns from a stage of a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University on Thursday, injuring as many as 18 people, four critically, before he killed himself, the school's president said. ADVERTISEMENT Witnesses in the geology class said "someone dressed in black came out from behind a screen in front of the classroom and opened fire with a shotgun," according to school President John Peters. Peters said he couldn't confirm any fatalities other than the gunman. University Police Chief Donald Grady said the gunman was not a student at the school. "It appears he may have been a student somewhere else," he said, adding that police had no apparent motive. The university had issued a statement on its Web site about an hour after the 3 p.m. shooting that "the immediate danger has passed. The gunman is no longer a threat." Kishwaukee Community Hospital spokeswoman Theresa Komitas told WLS-TV in Chicago it received 17 victims all with wounds from the shooting or flying debris, including three with serious injuries. One victim was airlifted to another hospital. George Gaynor, a senior geography student, who was in Cole Hall when the shooting happened, told the student newspaper the Northern Star that the shooter was "a skinny white guy with a stocking cap on." He described the scene immediately following the incident as terrifying and chaotic. "Some girl got hit in the eye, a guy got hit in the leg," Gaynor said outside just minutes after the shooting occurred. "It was like five minutes before class ended too." Witnesses said the young man carried a shotgun and a pistol. Student Edward Robinson told WLS that the gunman appeared to target students in one part of the lecture hall. "It was almost like he knew who he wanted to shoot," Robinson said. "He knew who and where he wanted to be firing at." Jillian Martinez, a freshman from Carpentersville, told the Chicago Tribune she was in the auditorium when the gunman entered through a door to the right of the lectern and opened fire about 3 p.m. "He just started shooting at all the kids," she said. "He just started shooting at people, and I ran out of there as fast as I could. I ran all the way to the student center; when I got there I could still hear shooting (from the classroom). Agents with the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were assisting local authorities at the scene, spokesman Thomas Ahern told the Chicago Tribune. "We will be urgently tracing the firearms and learning the history of the weapons," Ahern said. All classes were canceled Thursday night and the 25,000-student campus was closed on Friday. Students were urged to call their parents "as soon as possible" and were offered counseling at any residence hall, according to the school Web site. The school was closed for one day during final exam week in December after campus police found threats, including racial slurs and references to shootings earlier in the year at Virginia Tech, scrawled on a bathroom wall in a dormitory. Police determined after an investigation that there was no imminent threat and the campus was reopened. The shooting was the fourth at a U.S. school within a week. On Feb. 8, a woman shot two fellow students to death before committing suicide at Louisiana Technical College in Baton Rouge. In Memphis, Tenn., a 17-year-old is accused of shooting and critically wounding a fellow student Monday during a high school gym class, and the 15-year-old victim of a shooting at an Oxnard, Calif., junior high school has been declared brain dead.
Heres the link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/niu_shooting Seems like there were no deaths and the only serious injury is the girl who got shot in the eye . I really dont have a stance on the subject of whether guns should be banned or not because its one of those subjects anyone can make a case for either way and be correct, so ill let yall blast away at each other.
Battle Royale was an awesome movie! I don't think there's anyway the American version will do the original any justice.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-university-shooting-link,0,4774313.storylink Five dead including the gunman. I am not trying to debate the whole gun control issue. I am trying understand what might happen when a crowded area is not gun-free.
