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Super disturbing article about Liam Neeson

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by zeeshan2, Feb 4, 2019.

  1. zeeshan2

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    This is the voice i heard as i read his quotes
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  3. Zboy

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    Everyone this guy knows gets either beaten, raped, or kidnapped.

    Movies or real life.

    He is bad news.
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Meh, this isn't really disturbing, it's actually common.

    My brother was robbed at gun point by two young black males and during his therapy as well as my own our psychiatrists said that it was normal for your first responses to be anger and racism. The violation and the need to make quick connections to it are very primal, wrong but primal.

    You can't blame a man for admitting that he did have racist thoughts for a moment but like all trauma those moments pass and common sense and normal living prevail.
     
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    I'm not saying it isn't still racism either way, but had your brother been robbed at gunpoint by an asian, middle eastern, indian, hispanic AND white person, would your thoughts not have also been immediately towards anger towards that sub-group if only because your victim was in that sub-group?

    I guess I'm asking at which point is it "really racism" and which point is it just what happened? Let's say you couldn't pinpoint the race, but you knew the offender was decked out in a bunch of Nike gear. Shoes, shirts, shorts, a hat. You'd probably instinctively have anger towards Nike?

    Also, you note it was a male... so that's sexism then, right?

    all questions...
     
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    I had to google "cosh".

    The more you know.
     
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    If you read the whole thing it describes how he used this incident to come to grips with these feelings and use them for positvie growth.
     
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    My aunt was raped by two Mexican men when she was 13. They broke into the house while my grandma was out and they beat her and almost killed her.

    After that she was not comfortable around Mexican men until she was an adult and still would not entertain dating or marrying a Mexican man.

    After counseling she claimed to no longer have negative feelings towards men or Mexican men. I never saw her act unusual or say anything negative.

    However..... she still harbored fear and anger for at least a decade. Was she wrong?..... are we going to judge her, and call her racist?
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Yes, the therapist said it's immediate anger towards that race because well trauma is like that. You make stupid assumptions because you're scared. My brother saw the man's arms while looking down the barrel of a gun. If it were a white man it would be the same way according to a professional. It's a temporary state that can be overcome.

    Yeah like most trauma victims.

    I hope you read this thread very well and learn to understand. @JayZ750
     
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    Surely we can differentiate between having fleeting thoughts and actively walking neighborhoods hoping for an interaction..
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    you think people get over trauma in a matter of hours?
     
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    No, but I can easily forgive someone who would have those thoughts of revenge. To act on them by loading your gun and going out in the world looking for the revenge is not as easily forgivable for me.

    Do you agree with that or do you think they're one and the same?
     
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    By black b*stard, I feel like he was looking for a black gang member to take his anger out on rather than any random black person. Still a strong overreaction to a traumatic event.
     
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    Yes, and had he beaten a black person (or anyone else), he would have been held accountable legally.

    Also, as someone that owns a home in Ireland and spends more time there as I age, there is a cultural element at play here.

    Neeson grew up in Northern Ireland and lets just say that sensitivity and understanding are not traits that would help you survive in the 1950-1970's in that environment. Neeson grew up Catholic in an area where people could literally look at you and your mannerisms and tell if you were Catholic or Protestant. Catholics were treated similar to how black people in America were treated pre-1964. Catholics could not shop or eat in Protestant areas, they were often beaten up.

    It isn't an excuse but it is an indication of what was going through his head.
     
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    Yeah, people have immediate responses categorizing their "attackers"... no crap. I didn't get a degree and understand that, lol.

    I'm just curious if an how that fits into the culture of racism today, if at all? That's more my question...
     
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    Did you read the article or just the headline?
     
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    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    I think they are both part of the same; symptoms of trauma. It affects people in different ways.
     
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    I read the article; it's pretty F'ed up which is why I posted it here
     

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