Suns-Spurs Game 5 show why Rockets lost in the 1st round...

I completely agree. It's obvious our bench is weak at best. I can cut Head a little slack considering it was his first playoff series but then again, it was Deron Williams' first series as well but he was also a higher draft pick. We are in need of that hustle junkyard dog who can spark the team because I don't see Mcgrady or Yao sparking anything. We need a guy with no teeth. Is Jerome Williams still playing?

 

good points. rockets just dont have enough and dont go deep enough.

 

What would you know about head chip?

Haha..

 

Jerome Williams is no longer in the NBA.

 

That means we can get him back cheap.

 

I totally agree... I was getting laughed at that I suggested that we should try and play with a lengthier rotation during the season, and even parts of the post season when the game is not as tight. But I was told that all championship teams play a 8 man rotation and yada yada. The Jazz are already in the western conference finals, and they have almost a 9-10 man rotation. None of their players appear to be gassed towards the end of games, and that's indicative of Sloan's good court time managment with his players.

 

I can see the wrath of VOF coming.

 

Um, the Spurs basically played 7 players too, the other 3 guys played 6, 6, and 3 minutes in game 5. In fact, the Rox had more guys playing 20 mins per game (7) than the Spurs played in their last game (6).

 

I don't see why this is such a big surprise.

We know we aren't very good, that's no secret. We've got good-great talent on the roster, but their not ready to play yet. At least JVG doesn't think so. Alot of guys on this board think they know better, but I doubt it.

What JVG has done, is added some nice young talent to this team. IF JVG is still here next year, you'll see Chucky starting from go. And you'll see Luther work his way into the starting line-up by mid-season, & you'll see Vspan & Novak become part of the regular rotation, if they keep improving.

We played very well, in a tough division. We beat avg to poor teams, and lost against the really good teams... in the 4th Qtr.

That tells me we are headed in the right direction.

 

So why did the Suns only play that few guys? Many here consider D'Antoni to be a better coach than JVG... why would he make the same mistakes?

They have Jalen Rose and Piatkowski on the bench... both of them still have more proven game than V-span.

Perhaps talent rules everything... we need more of it.

 

Sorry but that's just not correct

The Suns played the shortest bench in the league and played a 6.5 man rotation practically all season - at the highest pace in theleague - they ended up with the 2d best record in the league. They were hte only team in the league to have 6 guys play over 30 mpg. They lost because their six men last night included 2 guys who normally wouldn't have gotten off the bench instead of an all star (amare)and a very good player in diaw.

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StupidMoniker KO6 LCII (facts and logic)

 

In case you missed game four, the Suns came back and dominated down the stretch to win that game. They must only get tired in games they lose, but are magically fresh in games they win.

Go back to the Rox and Jazz series. The rockets must have been tired to start every game cuz they were behind at the half of all seven. Then they rested more then the Jazz during halftime and were not that tired when they came back to win their three games. Then in game seven they were very tired to start the game and fell behind by 16, then were very fresh to pull within four, then kinda tired to fall behind by 10 at the half, then super untired to take the lead by five in the fourth, then tired again to lose down the stretch.

The teams that can play 10 guys like Utah, do so cuz they have 10 talented guys.

 

Francisco Elson was dominated by Marion and looked like a foul machine. But he is still given nearly 6 minutes. Snyder wouldn't be half as bad as Elson but got 0 minutes. That's the difference between JVG and Popo.

 

If you want to count guys playing such limited minutes, the Rockets used: 8, 9, 9, 10, 9, 8, and 8 players in the playoffs against the Jazz. Basically, using any measure you want to, your argument is bull.

 

lol you guys crack me up. Dee Brown and CJ Miles? If you honestly believe either of those guys would get any PT on a Gundy team you are delusional.

Gundy doesn't play someone and they are useless. Sloan does and they are talented. Doesn't matter that even their worst least productive players get twice the play time in the regular season and its not just garbage time.

 

We need more playmakers. You look at SA and Phoenix, they have players who can create off the dribble as well as players who can knock down open looks. That's just something we don't have right now on a consistent level. It's tough when you rely on one guy to get the ball rolling (no pun intended) on EVERY single possession.

 

Not really, all it does is prove that when you play less talented players against superior teams you usually lose. Which is why JVG didn't play the end of the bench so much...not real hard to figure out.