i dont think he does because i am positive marion is a FA this summer and the suns will not pay him the $ he wants to resign. I guess they are trying to get something back for him instead of nothing. Kirilinko is a similar type of player, though marion is a better offensive player AK is the better defensive player which the suns need. I guess whatever difference marion would have made on the offensive end the newly acquired grant hill could offset along with AK. would make the jazz a lot better for next season but figure they wouldnt pay marion big dollars since probably reserve any cap space for deron williams next contract in 2 years.
so they are deciding to pay the luxary tax? after all those tries to get away from the tax, i don't think they will. marion for kirilinko, doesn't realy make them better by any means. but, if they think, they just need to gamble and switch players that have the same value, to see if taht will work. go for it. but, damn. boozer and marion? woah. thats pretty scarry. add that with williams. that doesn't realy solve their point guard position though. they lost a lot from loosing fisher. veteranship, mean streak, flopping. i don't think marion was known a leader. maybe, another team wants ak47? i'm pretty sure utah was trying to trade him. maybe portland, atlanta, or some low team, wants him. But, utah doesn't want anyone from them. i think ak47 to suns. then suns trade ak47 to the pacers for o'neal could possibly happen. or even richard jefferson for ak47 could happen.
From a basketball standpoint only ( as opposed to a financial standpoint ), this would be a bad trade for the Suns. Phoenix does not want to change; they want to stick with the offense they have and hope to win a championship out of it. Kirilenko doesn't have the type of offensive athleticism they need to push it, and if the Suns want to be a more defensive team, one guy wouldn't be enough to turn them into one anyway. They would then have to swap more offensive for defensive players, and then hire Jeff Van Gundy as their coach. Marion would be so-so for the Jazz, and Kirilenko hasn't been their top dog anyway, so I don't think they lost much there, even gained more athleticism. However, I think Marion's stats over the years benefitted greatlty from the Suns system. Under Sloan's offense, he would not be able to duplicate those numbers.
PG is not Utah's problem, and they're probably more set at the position than nearly anyone else in the league regarless of who backs up Williams. Fisher did great in the playoffs against the Warriors but was pretty much a non-factor for most of the year during which he got most of his minutes at SG. Fisher's veteran status would likely have been more important had Williams not emerged last year (a progression which I doubt Fisher had much to do with....)
ru serious i would've done that in a heartbeat if i was utah but then again im wondering why phoenix would do it at all
The Jazz are already a damn fine team as evidenced by the previous season. AK47 didn't really add much to the team especially in the playoffs. Swapping him for Marion would make the Jazz a legit contender. Deron and Boozer are the cornerstones to the franchise, throw in a legit 3rd option in Marion is downright scary. Just can't see the Suns making this deal, it seems too one-sided in favor of the Jazz.
The way the salaries look, the Jazz would be able to add Millsap and/or Almond into the deal, no problem. That would make this deal sound much more plausible. The coaches pick the reserves. Marion's not underrated by the coaches... he's underrated by the fans. Amare and Nash always seem to hog 98% of the credit on that team. I'd argue that Marion is as important as Stoudemire to their success.
I agree. I think those two guys would've gotten the deal done. Marion is an awesome defender, plus he can do a lot more on the offensive end than AK can do. Suns wouldve gotten deeper with a big man they desperately need, no fall off in defense with AK, another potentially great shooter in Almond. I'm glad this deal didnt go though...It wouldve been bad news for us and even the Spurs and Mavs I dont know what NBA you've been watching, but Shawn Marion is probably the 2nd best SF in the league (Lebron being the best).......but you'll hear about carmello, artest, and rashard's name before you hear Marion's
People always say that. It's actually starting to get annoying. When everybody is saying "Marion is underrated," perhaps it means that we realize he's worth something. While Marion is one of the most effective players in the league, a major reason as to why he is always chosen top 5 in fantasy basketball, he simply isn't as exciting as some others...I've never heard people say Artest or Shard are better than him, but I'm talking more about Melo and Pierce type guys. He's also considered to be a product of the system, although I don't agree with that either. The thing is...the guy isn't underrated. Everybody knows he's good, if not great. But for some reason people still have that idea - even he has it in the "7 seconds or less" book by Jack McCallum. It's crazy...
I bet you if this trade did go down, Kirilenko would have a resurgent year ... playing with Nash can only make you look better
That trade would be good for Rox because Suns become worser, and Jazz becomes a little better, then Rox can beat both of them.
From a basketball perspective, this would be idiotic for the Suns. Marion is a better man defender than AK, he's a better shooter, a better finisher, and a better rebounder. AK is marginally better at creating his own shot, and only significantly better at weakside defense. In my opinion, Marion is the best player on the Suns (he plays both ends of the floor), and the best player in the league that doesn't have dominate the ball. The only reason he hasn't won a DPOY yet is because the rest of his team is so bad defensively.
Neither player has a good contract but Marion is the much better player. This move makes little sense for Phoenix.
