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Sunday Telegraph: Bin Laden Surrounded

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MacBeth, Feb 21, 2004.

  1. MacBeth

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    I have no idea of the credibility of this source, or it's accuracy. Just saw posted elsewhere. ( Isn't this an Aussie rag? If so, Smeg, is it a tabloid, or a serious paper?) Anyways, just in case, passed it on. Worse case scenario, it's a reminder of what we should be devoting our attention to now that we've saved the world from Saddam's 500, 000 tons of chemical weaponry and stopped his nukes before they rolled out of the factories...




    Bin Laden 'surrounded'

    February 22, 2004
    A BRITISH Sunday newspaper is claiming Osama bin Laden has been found and is surrounded by US special forces in an area of land bordering north-west Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    The Sunday Express, known for its sometimes colourful scoops, claims the al-Qaeda leader has been "sighted" for the first time since 2001 and is being monitored by satellite.

    The paper claims he is in a mountainous area to the north of the Pakistani city of Quetta. The region is said to be peopled with bin Laden supporters and the terrorist leader is estimated to also have 50 of his fanatical bodyguards with him.

    The claim is attributed to "a well-placed intelligence source" in Washington, who is quoted as saying: "He (bin Laden) is boxed in."

    The paper says the hostile terrain makes an all-out conventional military assault impossible. The plan to capture him would depend on a "grab-him-and-go" style operation.

    "US helicopters already sited on the Afghanistan border will swoop in to extricate him," the newspaper says. It claims bin Laden and his men "sleep in caves or out in the open. The area is swept by fierce snow storms howling down from the 10,000ft-high mountain peaks. Donkeys are the only transport."

    The special forces are "absolutely confident" there is no escape for bin Laden, and are awaiting the order to go in and get him.

    "The timing of that order will ultimately depend on President Bush," the paper says. "Capturing bin Laden will certainly be a huge help for him as he gets ready for the election."

    The article says bin Laden's movements are monitored by a National Security Agency satellite.

    On Thursday last week, General Richard Myers, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, said America had been engaged in "intense" efforts to capture bin Laden, who was believed to be hiding in the border area between Pakistan and Afghanistan.

    But he insisted that the focus of the search had not narrowed for months.


    The Sunday Telegraph
     
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  3. MacBeth

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    The paper in question was quoting a Brit paper, but you will observe the differing names...
     
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    The article is in the Sunday Telegraph, and in the text of the article, it says "A British Sunday newspaper"...thus, the Telegraph is referring to another British newspaper.

    I would assume that this is the paper:

    http://www.express.co.uk/
     
  5. MacBeth

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    Nice try at a recovery; I was asking about this source, as I already know about the Express. More to the point, there was no contradiction between in the question asked as you ( shockingly) tried to point out with your previous post. Had you been pointing out fruit of the tree, merely repeating

    ...would have been off point.
     
  6. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    This would be sweet.
     
  7. Dubious

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    Don't know anything about this story, I would just guess you wouldn't mount an operation until Spring. Flying helicopters in 10,000 ft mountains covered with snow would be pretty dangerous. However after a Winter of intelligence, planning and re-supply, not to mention an upcoming election, I bet there will be a massive sweep of the area this summer.
     
  8. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    The Express is quite different in credibility from the Telegraph. I haven't seen it in awhile, but the Daily Telegraph used to be a pretty good, conservative newspaper in Britain. Just which rag are we talking about here? It doesn't sound very credible. You could hardly keep Bin Laden tracked as they described in those weather conditions and that terrain. Not in my opinion.
     
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    Are you still "herbally enhanced" or is there any other reason why your post does not make sense?
     
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    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Cut the crap, JSC. That's not called for.
     
  12. AroundTheWorld

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    Okay, now I understand.

    But let me ask, if they only quote another newspaper, how is their own credibility relevant? Would it not be the credibility of the other newspaper that matters?

    I sure hope they get Bin Laden, but after I once posted a rumor here myself that turned out to be untrue, I will believe it when I see it...
     
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    Try to read the sentences in that post and try to understand what he is trying to say.

    "...there was no contradiction between in the question asked..."

    :confused:

    And he himself posted yesterday that he was "herbally enhanced"...so he will have to live with people referring to that.
     
  14. TheFreak

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    I like how they make a point to describe the bodyguards as 'fanatical' ... that makes me laugh for some reason.
     
  15. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Why? So anything one posts here is now fair game for a personal attack?

    Oh, that really contributes to a pleasant BBS experience.
     
  16. Major

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    Don't know anything about this story, I would just guess you wouldn't mount an operation until Spring. Flying helicopters in 10,000 ft mountains covered with snow would be pretty dangerous. However after a Winter of intelligence, planning and re-supply, not to mention an upcoming election, I bet there will be a massive sweep of the area this summer.

    I disagree - if you know where he is, you go get him *now*. You don't risk him finding some bizarre way to get out in the next few months. You build up your forces ASAP and then give the order to go. It might be riskier for U.S. forces, but the biggest risk is letting him escape.
     
  17. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I wish my bodyguards were fanatical, I think they could best be described as apathetic and non-chalant.
     
  18. AroundTheWorld

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    It's not a personal attack, it would be a personal attack if I accused him of something that he has not done. He himself posted that he was "herbally enhanced", so it does not look like he is too embarrassed about it.

    Lighten up...
     
  19. Deckard

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    I don't see how a comment like that is appropiate in this kind of thread, but it's your call. You two sure seem to have some sort of axe to grind. Why, I don't know. Carry on.
     
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    No axe to grind. Peace.
     

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