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Succumb to pressure of crises, Bush hittin' the bottles agains

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  1. wnes

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    George W. Bush has fallen off the wagon again! Booze Crisis!

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/63426

    The National Enquirer
    Jennifer Luce and Don Gentle

    Faced with the biggest crisis of his political life, president Bush has hit the bottle again.

    Bush, who said he quit drinking the morning after his 40th birthday, has started boozing amid the Katrina catastrophe.

    Family sources have told how the 59-year-old president was caught by First Lady Laura downing a shot of booze at their family ranch in Crawford, Texas, when he learned of the hurricane disaster. His worried wife yelled at him: "Stop, George."

    Following the shocking incident, disclosed here for the first time, Laura privately warned her husband against "falling off the wagon" and vowed to travel with him more often so that she can keep an eye on Dubya, the sources add.

    "When the levees broke in New Orleans, it apparently made him reach for a shot," said one insider. "He poured himself a Texas-sized shot of straight whiskey and tossed it back. The First Lady was shocked and shouted: "Stop George!"

    "Laura gave him an ultimatum before, 'It's Jim Beam or me.' She doesn't want to replay that nightmare -- especially now when it's such tough going for her husband."

    Bush is under the worst pressure of his two terms in office and his popularity is near an all-time low. The handling of the Katrina crisis and troop losses in Iraq have fueled public discontent and pushed Bush back to drink.

    A Washington source said: "The sad fact is that he has been sneaking drinks for weeks now. Laura may have only just caught him -- but the word is his drinking has been going on for a while in the capital. He's been in a pressure cooker for months.

    "The war in Iraq, the loss of American lives, has deeply affected him. He takes every soldier's life personally. It has left him emotionally drained.

    The result is he's taking drinks here and there, likely in private, to cope. "And now with the worst domestic crisis in his administration over Katrina, you pray his drinking doesn't go out of control."

    Another source said: "I'm only surprised to hear that he hadn't taken a shot sooner. Before Katrina, he was at his wit's end. I've known him for years. He's been a good ol' Texas boy forever. George had a drinking problem for years that most professionals would say needed therapy. He doesn't believe in it [therapy], he never got it. He drank his way through his youth, through college and well into his thirties. Everyone's drinking around him."

    Another source said: "A family member told me they fear George is 'falling apart.' The First Lady has been assigned the job of gatekeeper." Bush's history of drinking dates back to his youth. Speaking of his time as a young man in the National Guard, he has said: "One thing I remember, and I'm most proud of, is my drinking and partying. Those were the days my friends. Those were the good old days!"

    Age 26 in 1972, he reportedly rounded off a night's boozing with his 16-year-old brother Marvin by challenging his father to a fight.

    On November 1, 2000, on the eve of his first presidential election, Bush acknowledged that in 1976 he was arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol near his parents' home in Maine. Age 30 at the time, Bush pleaded guilty and paid a $150 fine. His driving privileges were temporarily suspended in Maine.

    "I'm not proud of that," he said. "I made some mistakes. I occasionally drank too much, and I did that night. I learned my lesson." In another interview around that time, he said: "Well, I don't think I had an addiction. You know it's hard for me to say. I've had friends who were, you know, very addicted... and they required hitting bottom (to start) going to AA. I don't think that was my case."

    During his 2000 presidential campaign, there were also persistent questions about past cocaine use. Eventually Bush denied using cocaine after 1992, then quickly extended the cocaine-free period back to 1974, when he was 28.

    Dr. Justin Frank, a Washington D.C. psychiatrist and author of Bush On The Couch: Inside The Mind Of The President, told The National Enquirer: "I do think that Bush is drinking again. Alcoholics who are not in any program ... like the President ... have a hard time when stress gets to be great.

    "I think it's a concern that Bush disappears during times of stress. He spends so much time on his ranch. It's very frightening."
     
  2. KingCheetah

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    The National Enquirer...

    This is a new low wnes.
     
  3. tigermission1

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    If nothing else, the National Enquirer is rather entertaining...full of BS, but entertaining. ;)
     
  4. Pole

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    Not really. This is about par.
     
  5. wnes

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    Wow Cheetah, glad to see you back ... wonder where you were the last few of days when gwaynceco flooded D&D with threads on Muslim/Islam ... thought you were all about policing the D&D ...

    Sure The National Enquirer is a tabloid, but so what? Are you going to challenge this story? I heard it on the local radio a couple of hours ago: they stand by their story, and are willing to take anyone who wages libel suits against them in court. Go for it.
     
  6. halfbreed

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    They ALWAYS say that. They have to in order to protect their readership, some of whom actually believe what they read in that garbage. Imagine if they said "Please don't sue us because we know we're going to lose." They'd lose what little readership they actually have. I know you can't possibly believe this...please tell me you don't.
     
  7. wnes

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    Fair enough. But do you agree that just because something is not reported by MSM, it's NOT automatically false if it's only reported in "tabloids?" Last time I checked, The National Enquirer is not in the business of political satire.

    The head of The National Enquirer said in the radio that another "major" newspaper is also working on the same story. Look, I know what your political stance is, and I also perfectly understand you don't want to see your elected President to fail. Truth be told, I don't take solace in the failures of the President of US either, in time of national crises.

    A side note, does anybody still remember the anthrax cases right after 9/11? The 1st casualty went to a guy who worked for The National Inquirer. It remains an unsolved mystery. I hope nobody dies this time.
     
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  8. HayesStreet

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    I would be suprised if Bush HAD whiskey in his house in Crawford since he's been sober for awhile.

    BUT he couldn't really do any worse and he wouldn't be the first drunk leader.
     
  9. wnes

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    Are you talking about Nixon? I heard he got himself drunk a few times during the height of Watergate. The thing is, Nixon was not a known alcoholic, however, Bush was. [emphasis added]
     
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    This story like most from the enquierer has zero credibility. It doesn't hold up to any journalistic standards and we shouldn't be discussing this as serious news.

    This is merely the spreading of rumors with no legitimate sources to back up that rumor and cofirm its validity. If we want to talk about sensational rumors then we should all admit before hand that is all we are doing.

    It may or may not be true, but I don't see anything in the article that leads me to belive that is true.

    Of course there was that video of the President off the wagon since his 40th b-day, and that was proven by the video. This, however, has no back up, and tales of a family show down has the smell of made up drama to me.
     
  11. wnes

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    FB, I have never read the National Enquirer. I posted the story here only because I first heard it on radio. Before you claim most of stories in the Enquirer had zero credibility, did you actually do any investigation of yourself? Do you have any statistics supporting you claim?

    Huh "journalistic standards", of what, US MSM? Haven't we been duped enough about WMD, staged celebration in Iraq, and fake Katrina relief effort, etc.?

    EDIT: Being an apolitical tabloid magazine, the National Enquirer was the first to report Jessie Jackson had an illegitimate child, was among the first to reveal Bill Clinton's Monica Lewinsky affair. As it turned out, both were eventually proved to be true.
     
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    I also read yesterday in the Enquirer that Jesus is living in Montana and that a 300 pound baby was born last month to a virgin male in Venezuela. I'll be waiting for the MSM to report on those, then.
     
  13. wnes

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    Go take a course in logic, kid. Proving A is false doesn't mean B is also false. Don't let your political loyalty blindside you.
     
  14. MartianMan

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    Let's not get into this debate............................................

    GONNA GET UGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D :p :) :eek: :eek: :(
     
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    Bitterly defending the National Enquirer ~ i'll just sit back and enjoy this train wreck...
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    Rumors are sometimes true, and sometimes not true. I also agree that the MSM has let us all done, and have been horrible and have on at least 3 occasions been lazy, and reported stories favorable to the Bush admnistration that were below journalistic standards. It isn't surprising that many of their stories have some degree of truth to them. Though they have also been sued, and lost, they have had to publish retractions and apologies for being wrong. Even if the MSM have lowered their standards lately that doesn't mean that the public should lower their standards. We can all take a stand and not lend credibility to stories that don't stand up to journalistic standards.

    But these unnamed sources who are family "friends" are the ones this story is relying on for its information. The research I needed to do in order to see their standards was looking at the magazine. Have you seen the recent issue where they show a popular maried starlett with an unidentified male? They ask anyone with information on who that male actually is to contact them. Relying on tips from readers who could be anyone and claim any kind of connection but aren't reliable.

    To base a story on what somebody who claims they are a family friend says a family member told them. That isn't very good evidence of anything. It is common for people who talk to the media to exaggerate their connection to celebrities, and claim they are friends when they are barely acquantences etc. I doubt anyone who is a real family friend of GW Bush would be talking to the enquirer about Bush's family life.

    And the story has ring of BS when it includes cliched quotes from the first lady like 'It's Jim Beam or me.' The story's Washington source may or may not be more reliable, but we don't know where they are getting their information from. The story makes it sounds like the Washington source is saying that the rumor in Washington is that Bush has been drinking. That certainly isn't a first hand encounter of Bush drinking, and is heresay of a rumor. Bush may have been drinking, but it isn't responsible to discuss it seriously without better proof than a story in the Enquirer with anonymous, questionable sources.

    ::edit:: I am no fan W's. But I like to think my opposition to him is based on conviction, evidence, facts, philosophy and not on pure rumor based on dubious sources.
     
  17. wnes

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    Calm down, the earth is not going to fall apart, unless a drunken Bush touches the nuclear button. Then again, the earthlings can always take an exudos to Mars. :p
     
  18. HayesStreet

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    That was more tongue in cheek. I wasn't talking about anyone is particular, just saying i'm sure there have been drunks that were better leaders. Look at Churchill, hell - even US Grant.
     
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    You guys are NOT welcomed here. Heck, you guys can't even take care of your own planet, you aren't coming near ours. :p
     
  20. HayesStreet

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    With the martianquakes and warming recently reported here on clutchfans, you got plenty to worry about.
     

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