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[Study] Children in Lesbian Families Less Likely to be Abused by Parent

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rashmon, Nov 30, 2010.

  1. Rashmon

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    I found this article interesting, but not surprising. During my years in public employment, I had numerous encounters with opponents of gay adoption. Curious how some of the social conservatives here feel about this topic. Discuss.

    Children in Lesbian Families Less Likely to be Abused by Parent, Other Caregiver

    November 18, 2010 — Adolescents raised in lesbian families are less likely than their peers to be abused by a parental figure, according to new findings from the US National Longitudinal Lesbian Family Study (NLLFS).

    In fact, researchers found that none of the 78 adolescents evaluated reported any physical or sexual victimization by a parent or other caregiver. This contrasts with past research that reports that 26% of all American adolescents report caregiver physical abuse and 8.3% report sexual abuse (US Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention's National Survey of Children's Exposure to Violence, Finkelhor et al, 2009).

    "It is noteworthy how sharply [our] findings contrast with same-age adolescents in the American population," NLLFS principal investigator Nanette K. Gartrell, MD, Williams Distinguished Scholar at UCLA School of Law and associate clinical professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Center of Excellence in Women's Health at the University of California–San Francisco, told Medscape Medical News.

    The investigators note that most of the NLLFS adolescents did not grow up in households with any adult males present. Since "sexual abuse of children that occurs within the home is largely perpetrated by adult heterosexual males," this could be 1 reason for the difference in findings.

    The analysis also found that although almost 20% of the NLLFS girls reported identifying as bisexual and were more likely to have engaged in same-sex activity than female peers, none of them identified as predominantly homosexual.

    The study was published online November 6 in the Archives of Sexual Behavior.

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    read more at the link: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/732779
     
  2. melvimbe

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    3 points...I imagine most lesbian parents are a lot more conscious of thier parenting privledges. They are aware of how some in society views them and would welcome the oppurtunity to prove them wrong.

    Second, there is a wide spectrum of parenting between abuse and good parenting. In other words, just because you aren't abusive doesn't mean you're a good parent.

    Third, I don't think the typical arguement against same sex parenting is based on potential abuse. The thought is that a child needs the proper balance of male and female parenting. This survey really doesn't address this at all.
     
  3. Kim

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    While I don't think it's an ideal situation to be in, this argument for lower chance of abuse is legitimate imo. It's sad because you don't place kids in foster homes or adoptive homes and think the worst will happen, but it happens out there...way too much.
     
  4. JuanValdez

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    This is my thought as well. First, I'm not at all surprised -- I would expect these results, directionally. It doesn't speak much to the question, however, as to whether it is a good idea or a bad idea to put children into lesbian families.
     
  5. rhadamanthus

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    I find this argument r****ded given the absurd number of kids raised in single-parent homes due to divorces.
     
  6. Rashmon

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    Good points, except your #3 is not entirely correct. A substantial portion of the opposition is based upon the perception that these children will be abused and recruited into homosexuality.
     
  7. melvimbe

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    How does that invalidate the arguement? No one is saying that a single parent home is ideal for a kid either. As a single parent myself, I can agree with that.

    I can agree with that, and I didn't read the whole article, but I don't think it referred to adoptions /foster care only.
     
  8. rhadamanthus

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    But no one is trying restrict single parents from raising children a la adoption barriers for gay couples. It's a (slight) tangent I know - and I apologize for it. I just find any "social" or "ethical" complaint about the situation to be a bogus ploy to avoid looking bigoted.

    And this is most definitely not directed at you personally.
     
  9. weslinder

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    My personal experience agrees with the article, but the evidence that they used is this?
    And the conclusion they drew is this?
    They need to do a lot more research to make that claim. I'm just saying.
     
  10. rtsy

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    Breaking news: women don't have a penis.
     
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    Okay, I've been trying for a while now to figure out what the logic is behind this post. I'll be damned if I can come up with any.

    anybody wanna give it a shot?
     
  12. Rashmon

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    Apparently, you must have a penis to abuse children.

    I'm assuming, from his post, that using a substitute would not import the same desire to abuse children regardless of sexual orientation.

    Maybe Mr. Paul can make it so.
     
  13. rtsy

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    'Since "sexual abuse of children that occurs within the home is largely perpetrated by adult heterosexual males," this could be 1 reason for the difference in findings.'

    whaaaaaaaaaaat?
     
  14. Rashmon

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    I believe we all read that and it was a given. So you weren't making some additional cogent observation?
     
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    is this a statistically significant sample size?

    although logically it follows that this would be the case, . what about children in homosexual male families? i mean statistically, aren't females much less likely to perpetrate sexual assault?
     
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    I understood, and it is pretty basic. I haven't done the research, but I'm pretty sure that it's much more common for males to be pedos than it is for females (with the exception being school teachers).

    And I agree with Weslinder that the weak study is pretty crappy evidence. Just go with the logical assumption, but I guess you need more than that to write an article.
     
  17. melvimbe

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    I have not done any research, but I was under the impression that it was not at all easy for a single person to adopt a child.

    And I certainly haven't taken anything personal...I haven't stated any personal opinion on the matter.
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    The reality is that you will not be able to enact some kind of system for removing biological children from single-parent households. So, we kinda have to put up with the reality of generations of kids raised without 2 parents in the home. Keeping kids out of adoptive homes with homosexuals is much easier from a practical perspective, so it's more worthwhile to think about whether doing so is ethical (probably not) and wise (who knows?).

    I don't really disagree with you that social-ramification justifications are often used as a smokescreen. But, I think it is a question worth addressing if we could do it without the bull**** (which is, of course, impossible).

    And, to continue to be real about it, if you do a study like this and find out that living with 2 lesbians leads to less abuse and living with 2 male homosexuals leads to more abuse, you won't be able to carve out some kind of legislative system that discriminates against homosexual males but not homosexual females. Why didn't this study look at kids in homosexual male households anyway?
     
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    Gay parents are (potentially) our greatest weapon; we should be sending battalions of newlywed lesbians to waterboard the terrorists.
     
  20. Rashmon

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    You did read that this study covered a span of 24 years, right?
     

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