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"Strip Search All 18-28 Year Old Muslim Men At Airports"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by trustme, Jan 4, 2010.

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  1. trustme

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    Not going to fly. How can you tell one's a Muslim even if disregarding constitutional rights?
     
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    He would miss out on

    Mohamed Atta, Age: 33
     
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    At the end he mentions the Israeli's have had much success in doing this exactly. Last I remember in the past 10 years the US has had one major attack (9/11) really with their security methods, whereas the Israeli's have been bombarded with suicide attacks left and right. Obviously what the US is doing is much more effective than what Israel has one.
     
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    So then they just start sending 30 years (or have people claim to not be Muslim). How does this help anything? :confused: We have some dumb people out there.
     
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    So I guess we should strip search every 15-18 year old white, male high school student for guns every day.
     
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    It is easy to deny faith, muslim terrorists range from white blue eyed Chechen militants to brown semitic looking Gulf Arabs to latino-looking Arabs in the Levant and north Africa to dark skinned Nigerians. How the heck do you profile them without forcing every muslim into confessing their faith or stamping their passports or driver licenses with a special mark, and we all know where we have seen that one before, it would never fly.

    Profiling by faith does not work, the only thing that would work and be LEGAL and does not make us all as Americans seem like a bunch of racist a-holes is if we profile behavior and associations and destinations and things like that. Profiling foreign nationals from Sudan or Somalia would also be OK for people traveling overseas.

    The sad thing is that this Nigerian kid SHOULD have been prevented from flying based on his BEHAVIOR and information available to intel community on him, so it was not like this kid came out of nowhere, our security people just failed to act upon the information they had, the SAME THING applies to Fort Hood killings. Warning signs and ample information was availble. The sad thing is our government is now using their own failures and shortcomings to expand upon their own powers and harass us the citizens even more. Fear works, and the folks seem to be eating it right up.
     
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    only if they wear trench coats and are total losers.
     
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    It's not racial profiling like she is saying. Muslims come in every race. So unless we make it mandatory for all passports to declare one's religion, how exactly can this be enforced? Even then, what will prevent the bombers from lying about their faith when passports are being made?
     
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    Obviously from a security standpoint it is worthless, thus discussing if it is morally wrong or not is 'tarded.
     
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    If you get to the point where you are willing to blow up non-Muslims as an act of religious piety, it is pretty well established that lying is expressly sanctioned:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya
     
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    And just to clarify, both of these are major sins in Islam.
     
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    My understanding was that if you are persecuted, as if you were being stuck by hot pokers by the Inquisition in a dungeon, that Taqiyya would be considered acceptable. Of course, I could be wrong.
     
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    Actually, from a security standpoint it would make a pretty decent difference IMO. So, the question is whether it is morally wrong or right. And obviously, it is morally wrong.
     
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    Sorry, I misread your post. I meant the first part of your post (blowing yourself up) and lying in general are major sins. In that link it says Taqiyya is a Shia belief, whereas most of the terrorists are so called Sunnis. I personally don't consider any of these terrorists to be Muslims, but I'm sure most of them come from the "Sunni" side. But regardless, Taqiyya would only be applicable to a few of the Muslims that fly everyday since Shia's make up only about 10% of the world's Muslim population.
     
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    It would be more efficient if we formed dogpiles.

    Pictures optional.
     
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    I disagree. You can't hide that you're doing it, and if the terrorists know you're profiling a certain type of people to search, they'll just recruit people who don't match the profile. I'd argue that it would actually be completely useless from a security standpoint.
     
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    Just as effective and thought out as the 3 oz liquid containers. So they limit us to 3oz containers that one could just split up whatever they are taking into multiple ones and do the same exact thing they were trying to in the first place.
     

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