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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheresTheDagger, Aug 27, 2022.

  1. TheresTheDagger

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    Saw this on Real Time last night. Bill found the BBS's mascot.

     
  2. AroundTheWorld

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    100 % on point, Bill Maher.

    He is basically describing all the idiots in this subsection of the forum who labeled me an "Islamophobe" or Nazi because I criticized Islam. And they were using all the same crap talking points he is describing in the video. Hypocrites.
     
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    Give me a break. This is another example of fake liberal controversy. There’s this liberal reaction to something that people make up in their minds. Maybe there is this reaction out there in the media that I just missed but I sure as hell didn’t see excuses for the Iranian fatwa and the extremist who stabbed him.

    Maher is also correct that if Matt Stone and Trey Parker did “Book of Mohammed” that theatres would absolutely need heightened security. Who told Bill Maher that they wouldn’t?? That’s stupid. Yes of course there are terrorist factions and ideologies who use Islam as justification for violence. Nobody says they don’t. It doesn’t mean that you can never call someone out if they are legit being an islamaphobe.

    I’m sick of Bill Maher’s trolling to get right wingers to give him clicks. He knows right now liberals are less tuned in so he runs these segments to get right wingers to make up the audience he’s missing when Trump is in the news every day. Right wingers can have Bill Maher if they want him and Elon Musk and all the other rich people who are butthurt about people being too critical of them online or whatever. Spare me. Rich entitled prick who can’t think of ANY other bit to do so has to do “New Rules” every single show. He’s also one of the worse stand up comics I’ve ever seen.
     
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    Give me an example of what you are referencing or spare me.
     
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    I have criticized Islam plenty here along with posters like @Nook . Why didn't people call me or him an "Islamaphobe"?
     
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    The only good example of a out of touch liberal celebrity lashing out at benign criticism of Islam was when Ben Affleck was on Bill Maher's show. He was kinda being irrational there.
     
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    Bro you've spent hours upon hours typing about Muslim migration and how horrible for Western society it is and how the US and Europe especially are going to be taken over by Muslims. You have spammed the "great replacement" narrative that right wingers like Tucker Carlson spams but for Muslims instead of Hispanics.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    @fchowd0311 what happened that you went from enlightened back to defensive and circling the wagons?
     
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    I don't recall ever being on the same side as you when it comes to rhetoric about Muslims taking over the West in some nefarious plot.
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    I never said that. Again, you are ascribing statements to others they haven't made. Another poster recently noticed that as well.
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    Okay.
     
  13. King1

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    Take a seat p
     
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    So he’s complaining that some of his critics tweet strawman arguments back at him when he goes after Islamic fanatics? Is that basically it?
     
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    I haven't at all followed the stabbing so have no idea what he's talking about (that pretty much the "entire MSM" is only saying this stabbing event is bad "without looking at the reasons behind it") but that sounds like he is being presumptuous or making a strawman argument himself.

    Strawman can be fun though.

    Support strong immigration borders. Racist!

    Support immigrants. Open border!

    Support big gov roles. Socialist! No, Communists!

    Something about religion. The war on Christmas! (Probably the longest-lasting popular strawman in my lifetime).

    Defund the police!

    Critical Race Theory!
     
  16. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    That is a segment on his show. This is like calling out Jeopardy for having Double Jeopardy on every episode.
     
  17. Buck Turgidson

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    Bill Maher is a completely insufferable cockmuppet. I don't particularly care what he has to say, even when he's right.
     
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    Did Carson, Leno, Fallon, Letterman ever have one bit that they did every single night and that was basically it? Could you imagine Carson doing the genie letters bit every single night for 30 years? His show is basically a 2016 CNN panel argument but with the word fu$k being allowed…. And “New Rules.”

    Maher also knows he’s on Friday nights and people have better things to do so he makes sure he has at least one rant that can be pulled out for right wingers to go viral with online. It’s smart but he’s just trolling because he knows his show is hanging on by a thread. You guys are just easy to play and make something go viral. The always reliable “Liberals are MAD at me and you about…” bit always works especially when there’s no real evidence that “liberals” are really attacking anyone for anything. It just plays into the fantasy that right wingers and rich celebrities have of evil liberals out to get them.
     
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    Yup. New media has really filled the gaps with what we used to like about Maher's shows. There are many podcasts that do breakdown of social, historical and political commentary with comedy and a lack of "filter" far better than Maher now.

    People like my Dad still love him. It's funny because my dad ever since Maher has gone on this "anti-woke" campaign has upped his leftist b****ing. Every now and then he's like "AOC is ruining Biden's agenda!"
     
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    Just because Maher is a bad comedian doesn’t mean he’s dumb. He knew the second Biden got elected he needed to survive by trolling the right into making segments go viral. If you watch his show it’s Bill as usual but he has at least one rant now every episode that is obviously meant to be pulled into a 4 to 6 minute clip meant to go viral. I guess if it gets right wingers to actually watch his full show then it’ll be a good thing cause they’ll get exposed to opinions they’ll never get on Hannity or Bannons podcast.

    But yeah he knows he’s hanging on by a thread cause his show is nothing special and he knows he’s not that great of a comedian so he had to make a career in politics or sports where it doesn’t soley rely on his comedy… because yeah… he’s not good… and over the years he’s shown that he lives in entitled bubble. Nothing irks me more than when he goes on a rant about how dumb people are for eating crappy food. The guy has no idea how normal people get by. He’s an entitled prick… but I guess that’s his whole bit.
     
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